Go and listen to pretty much every/any concert in the last few years and listen to the way he sings some of the songs’ melodies. He has been changing them. It’s annoying and it sucks.
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Go and listen to pretty much every/any concert in the last few years and listen to the way he sings some of the songs’ melodies. He has been changing them. It’s annoying and it sucks.
His pitch has changed, I think that's the only way he can still do them without dropping the whole band half a step. The actual song Disintegration has always been slightly higher (and was faster..) that he's comfortable with.
I'll take vocal melody changes over key changes every time!
Go and listen to pretty much every/any concert in the last few years and listen to the way he sings some of the songs’ melodies. He has been changing them. It’s annoying and it sucks.
His pitch has changed, I think that's the only way he can still do them without dropping the whole band half a step. The actual song Disintegration has always been slightly higher (and was faster..) that he's comfortable with.
I'll take vocal melody changes over key changes every time!
no, that's not what i'm talking about. I get his pitch has changed and he can't make the notes he used to, his voice is still amazing, I'm talking about changes of the actual melodies.
Listen to Shake Dog Shake here:
and REALLY listen the the way he sings the words compared to the recorded version and pre-2012 versions. the melodies are different.
Specific examples are:
in the "back of my mouth"
"spurning sex"
"i'll never see you"
"you'd" disappear away
"from my throat"
"dog" from the "shake dog shake" both @3.27 and 3.39
Listen to the speed of the words, and the time between the words in the "back", "of", "my" and "mouth" in the phrase "in the back of my mouth" at the beginning of the song. You should be able to easily hear it's being sung with a different melody to the correct melody.
Sadly there are many, many, many more examples. He's either bored of the melodies, can't be bothered singing them properly, or wants to spice things up a bit with differences. Or it's something else. Whatever it is, they're changes to one of the core parts of the songs, and it would just like if Reeves changed the climbing guitar part in Just Like Heaven.. No, just no!
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Post by nausearockpig on Mar 3, 2019 4:14:52 GMT 1
there's so many of the vocal melody changes in this version of SDS. "the same sharp pain" is a stand out example.
I remember hearing such as severe change some other song on some other show, and replying in some other thread about it, and how it didn't even sound close to that song's vocal melody. Sad times.
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steve
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I agree that you can tell when he's disinterested in a song or it doesn't mean a thing to him anymore and that's difficult to hide sometimes it would seem. Makes you question why those songs aren't shelfed. Then again he did have vocal issues on the last tour that could've played a part in some of these observations, I'm not sure.
I'm not saying disinterest IS the reason, just positing that it could be. but in saying that, they have something like 250+ songs, so it's not like they couldn't swap songs out, and others in..
I actually think he's just trying to make it sound a bit different, perhaps to make it more interesting for the audience, or just to mix it up a bit for himself. Either way, I find it just super annoying that he changes up the melodies like he does.
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steve
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Songs Of A Lost World *CRUMPET BOY*
I think it's more out of preference a lot of the time. When you've committed something to wax it becomes a fixed point in time that you can't really change. After the fact you have (in a live setting) the option to try out something that you might think sounds better than when it was recorded. I can imagine them rehearsing & suddenly saying, "Hey, it sounds better that way." & it's not just vocal melodies that get changed up. Whole arrangements can be vastly different to that of the recorded original.
I've not thought about it too much but I always put it down to the fact he's nearly 60 and probably doesn't have the strength in his voice anymore to sing with as much power; Example being Prayers For Rain.
IMHO, and again this and $3.50 will get you a latte at Dunkin Doughnuts, from watching Robert throughout the years, his facial expressions, the words he says, he is extremely intelligent. Extremely intelligent people get bored VERY easily. Imagine singing the same songs over and over and over and over day and night for months. Yes, this is what he does for a living. Yes he shouldn't complain about it. But I also think Robert has this sarcastic sense of humor (which I can fully appreciate as do I) and I think he just sings HIS songs the way he wants, when he wants, however he finds it interesting. Like for example I cannot remember the last time he sang a full perfect version of Why Can't I be You or Let's Go to Bed including all of the chorus parts. MAYBE 1992? You can see there is a playfulness about him when he is on stage now. No doom and gloom. Except when he sings more serious songs A Forest, 100 Years, It Can Never Be The Same (he was dead serious singing that one) So overall it doesn't bother me.
"The moon will change your mind."
Pipperoo
Big Hand
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