I have many remastered recordings, mostly for my personal use - I remaster to 5.1 or 7.1 audio channels, I don't alter the levels unless it's needed, ie stereo field widened or reduced, balance between left and right speakers levelled out, nothing drastic!
for the recordings, i think 1, 2 and 3 count as in circulation ... at least to me. Sure case 4 is speculative and should be handled as this (on my website listed in grey to make clear it's unknown if the info is real or false)
Do you consider the 27.11.2011 recording as circulating or not? You probably know the taper but I guess very few people have this recording. Maybe some friends have a copy or maybe someone with whom he traded something very hard to find. To me, this recording is uncirculating. What about you?
I understand your point about just listing the raw masters but not the remasters but wouldn't that make that list quite incomplete? It's fact that many remasters are made, even from the mastertapers himself so on one hand a list of all circulating recordings is to be made to have a reference whats in circulation but the (often widely) circulating remasters aren't included? Including remasters shouldn't be a knock-out criteria for the list but in the end whats the difference to the list of recordings on my website then? It's for sure worth to have a list of Cure recordings with the best available version but when the best version is a remastered version it wouldn't be a usefull list when you don't have this best one in, no? Another point one has to think about how to be choose what is the best version. In days with many tapers using high end equipment and recordings sound excellent how to judge which one is the best. Think there are different opinions for each recording just because of the varying sounds. So i think sound samples would be necessary.
To me, sound quality of remasters is really a matter of taste. You'll probably think one is better and I'll probably tell you that I prefer another one. Maybe I should rephrase from "best version available" to "lowest generation available". Anyway, in 99% of cases, the lowest generation is the best recording of one particular source. If some worthy remasters are circulating, we have to say in notes:"Remastered versions are circulating" and maybe indicate the names of people who worked on it. The only problem in the listing will remain from unknown gen recordings where some work will have to be done to determine the best version.
I understand your point about recordings like New York 27/11/2011 but especially for such not open traded shows it's difficult to decide. There are for sure about 10 people having this one but none of them trades it out now but do you know if this will be the same in about a year or two? What i mean is that i would not not list recordings because they are hidden as you can't say if they'll surface one day. To make your list more complete you have to list all the recordings that are existing even if they aren't in circulation at the time. You can say noone of the list users will ever get a copy of it so it's useless to list those hidden recordings but they are for sure existing so one day maybe ... . On the other hand rumored recordings shouldn't be listed
i'm with you, mostly the lowest generation is the best quality. making a statement about remasters are being available too is a good point.
That's exactly the aim of this list. The New York recording is unavavailable to most so it remains in the uncirculating list.Then, one day, if it appears on many traders list or is uploaded, we ll have to amend the list and put it into the circulating list. It will be a very moving list with regular updates as and when upgrades, new sources and uncirculated sources will circulate.
That's exactly the aim of this list. The New York recording is unavavailable to most so it remains in the uncirculating list.Then, one day, if it appears on many traders list or is uploaded, we ll have to amend the list and put it into the circulating list. It will be a very moving list with regular updates as and when upgrades, new sources and uncirculated sources will circulate.
Well i think some good points came up about that kind of list, at least the ideas have the capability to be usefull. So if you plan to do it and need some details about recordings i'm glad to help. Think you need to check a lot of tradelists.
BUT ... apart from the content, how about the technical part of it? Any plans how to build it?
The technical part shouldn't be a problem, I have some skills in programming websites. I'm not a pro, but at least minimal skills to do this kind of stuff. Then, anyone wanting to help is welcome. Nevertheless, I think the website is not for tomorrow. First, I'll think I'll do some lists for myself. I'm a statistician so no problem managing databases.
Post by nausearockpig on Jun 6, 2015 8:55:53 GMT 1
You've probably already thought of this but seeing as cure-concerts.de has undeniably the greatest The Cure concerts info anywhere on the web, would it not make sense to expand on what is there and add this generation and circulation info as 2 additional columns of data in those tables at the bottom for each show?
If you have a lead on Brisbane 21 August 1992 - CT version, for the love of Bob, let me know. Please!