we could cross our fingers that the next ice-age will arrive soon (geological-time, it should be near)
When you consider that at it's height, glaciation was 2 kilometers thick in London, the next ice age will decimate the human population back to Stone Age levels.
No bad thing, really...
The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
inspired by the Astronomy thread, here is a thread for all the other science geeks in here. feel free to post anything ralated to naural sciences, news, jokes, interesting stuff.....ect.
But PLEASE, NO PSEUDOSCIENCE!!!
I´ll start with a big news, element 117. Welcome to the World!
inspired by the Astronomy thread, here is a thread for all the other science geeks in here. feel free to post anything ralated to naural sciences, news, jokes, interesting stuff.....ect.
But PLEASE, NO PSEUDOSCIENCE!!!
I´ll start with a big news, element 117. Welcome to the World!
Here are some social sciences guys also... And no, I must not teach you about alternative history immediately...
Because this a Natural science thread. becuase I made it, and i´m a NATURAL science geek and NOT a social science geek. just do a thread on social science (not that it is real science anyway )
The world is neither fair nor unfair - It's just us trying to feel that there's some sense in it
Here are some social sciences guys also... And no, I must not teach you about alternative history immediately...
Because this a Natural science thread. becuase I made it, and i´m a NATURAL science geek and NOT a social science geek. just do a thread on social science (not that it is real science anyway )
I was trying and will try through all my life, as historian and scientist, to be as multidisciplinary oriented as possible. For example, if I am there to research about the aspects of human life during 17th century I always must keep in mind factors connected with "Little Ice Age", and that is, of course, not possible without proper knowledge of frequency and causes for glacial and interglacial periods. I am so sorry that history today is rendered by some to level where they don't consider it as science anymore. In that frame I understand why I must be excluded from this thread.
An impression of sound Then everything is gone Forever
laperouse: WE ARE AWESOME! Let them talk about their stuff here, you and me will just go on researching our things.
History IS a science. And no, history isn't what you're reading in dodgy and sappy historical novels like "Pope Joan", it's a science, all with research, sources, theses & anti-theses, academic papers, conferences and all that stuff.
Post by misswill0w on Sept 25, 2013 16:54:39 GMT 1
ja ja, I was kidding. i´m a biologist, I get this "biology is not Natural science" all the time. I need to go bully on the once "below" me.
I do believe that history is science. if you are working with the "science-rules" then it is a science. every science is has it´s own restriction due to which experiments are possible to do.
but enlighten me please, how do you test a hypothesis?
The world is neither fair nor unfair - It's just us trying to feel that there's some sense in it
Mars water surprise in Curiosity rover soil samples
There is a surprising amount of water bound up in the soil of Mars, according to an analysis done onboard the US space agency's (Nasa) Curiosity rover.
When it heated a small pinch of dirt scooped up from the ground, the most abundant vapour detected was H2O.
Curiosity researcher Laurie Leshin and colleagues tell Science Magazine that Mars' dusty red covering holds about 2% by weight of water.
This could be a useful resource for future astronauts, they say.
"If you think about a cubic foot of this dirt and you just heat it a little bit - a few hundred degrees - you'll actually get off about two pints of water - like two water bottles you'd take to the gym," Dr Leshin explained.
"And this dirt on Mars is interesting because it seems to be about the same everywhere you go. If you are a human explorer, this is really good news because you can quite easily extract water from almost anywhere."
The dean of science at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, New York, has been describing her work with Curiosity in this week's Science In Action programme on the BBC.
The revelation about the amount of water in the soil is just one nugget of information to come from a series of five papers in the respected journal describing the early exploits of the rover.
Some of this data has been reported previously at science meetings and in Nasa press conferences, but the formal write-up gives an opportunity for the wider research community to examine the detail. 'Good and bad'
Dr Leshin's and colleagues' publication concerns a sample analysis done at "Rocknest", a pile of wind-blown sand and silt about 400m from where Curiosity touched down on the floor of Gale Crater in August 2012.
The robot used its tools to pick up, sieve and deliver a smidgeon of this Martian dirt to the Sam instrument hidden away inside the belly of the vehicle. Jake_M The wind has eroded Jake_M into the striking shape of a pyramid
Sam has the ability to cook samples and to identify any gases that are released. These products are diagnostic of the different components that make up the soil.
So, for example, Curiosity saw a significant proportion of carbon dioxide - the likely consequence of carbonate minerals being present in the sample. Carbonates form in the presence of water.
And it saw oxygen and chlorine - a signal many had expected to see following similar studies in Mars' "High Arctic" by Nasa's Pheonix lander in 2008.
"[We think these] are break-down products from a mineral called perchlorate, and that's there at about a half-a-percent in the soil," said Dr Leshin.
"If the water was the good news for the astronauts, this is the bad news. Perchlorate actually interferes with thyroid function, so it could be a problem if humans were to ingest some of the fine dust on Mars. It's just something we need to know about now so we can plan for it later." Scottish link
Three of the other Curiosity papers in the Science Magazine release also concern themselves with the nature of the Martian soil.
The fifth is a report that describes a pyramid-shaped rock found in the vehicle's path. This striking block was dubbed Jake Matijevic, in honour of a recently deceased Nasa engineer.
The team led by Prof Ed Stopler from Caltech, Pasadena, can now confirm that Jake_M is a rock not seen before on the Red Planet.
It is most like a mugearite, says the group - a type of rock found on islands and rift zones on Earth.
"On Earth, we have a pretty good idea how mugearites and rocks like them are formed," said co-worker Prof Martin Fisk from Oregon State University, Corvallis.
"It starts with magma deep within the Earth that crystallises in the presence of 1-2% water.
"The crystals settle out of the magma and what doesn't crystallise is the mugearite magma, which can eventually make its way to the surface as a volcanic eruption."
Mugearite was first identified on Earth by British petrographer/petrologist Alfred Harker. The name references a local croft, Mugeary, on the Isle of Skye, just off the Scottish mainland.
The Curiosity rover is currently engaged in some hard driving in Gale Crater. Since early July, it has been rolling tens of metres a day.
The robot is trying to reach the foothills of the large mountain that dominates the centre of the deep, equatorial impact bowl.