The song was revived in 2005, when the band performed it at several European festivals. The lyrics, however, were changed from "Killing an Arab" to "Kissing an Arab". Smith added a whole new opening verse when the band performed it at the Royal Albert Hall, London, on 1 April 2006 as "Killing Another". The "killing another" lyric was also used during the 2007–2008 4Tour. The band performed the song as "Killing an Ahab" with lyrics inspired by Herman Melville on 2011's Reflections Tour.[9] During the band's 40th anniversary tour, the lyrics and title were changed back to "Killing An Arab".
I find it quite annoying that was changed. Aside from the Ahab one. That I'm all over.
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I hate guessing but didn't this have something to do with the situation in The middle east at the time? The same reason it wasn't included on deluxe edition of TIB?
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One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain So hit me with music, hit me with music
The Cure's first compilation of singles, Standing on a Beach (1986), was packaged with a sticker advising against racist usage of the song after a student DJ on WPRB Princeton provided an exacerbating talk-up prior to playing the record in October 1986. Robert Smith and Elektra Records requested that radio stations discontinue airing the song and saw the sticker as a compromise to prevent having to pull the album from sale entirely. It saw controversy again during the Persian Gulf War and following the September 11 attacks.
I did find this quite an odd thing to write
During the band's 40th anniversary tour...
Tour? It was 2 concerts. In the same city.
In any case, that statement is wrong. They re-instated Arab in 2011 at the Reflections shows
There's no statement that I'm aware of although Robert was directly involved in asking US radio stations to stop playing it. The sticker was more likely Elektra's doing & I suspect Robert wasn't best pleased at the time. I also think it was the right move not to make a statement as it would have only shone a big spotlight on a complete non-issue. That we, as fans, noticed the change in lyrics is one thing. To make a splurge in the NME or whatever music rag was around at the time would have just served to bring all the conspiracy whack jobs out from under their rocks to offer their "expert opinion" on something they genuinely knew sod all about.
He briefly mentioned somewhere that he'd decided to reclaim the lyric, maybe one of those phone interviews. Think that was around 2018 not Reflections but really can't remember.
He briefly mentioned somewhere that he'd decided to reclaim the lyric, maybe one of those phone interviews. Think that was around 2018 not Reflections but really can't remember.
Post by nausearockpig on Sept 5, 2022 5:37:41 GMT 1
I find it despicable that "journalists" and scholarly types, or people in general who have read the lyrics would say that it can be interpreted as not an anti-violence / anti-war song. They're being disingenuous, which I find appalling.
Anybody with half a brain can see what it's about, and if they claim the opposite, they're being willfully contrary and difficult for the sake of it. F idiots.
I won't accept any other version than the original. I don't want them to be harassed but when they played it 3 days in a row at Wembly in 2016 it was amazing. Such energy.
I won't accept any other version than the original. I don't want them to be harassed but when they played it 3 days in a row at Wembly in 2016 it was amazing. Such energy.
Yup. That's because it's an amazing song. Musically it can be sparse and raw (like in the 1978 PEEL Sessions) or it can be loud and raucous. Lyrically, well, we've been talking about that, haven't we.....
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Post by nitebusnitebus on Nov 10, 2022 16:57:08 GMT 1
disappoints me greatly the studio version is still not on streaming services, and that the band aren't playing it. i'm hoping they aren't trying to stave off any absurd "controversy" by not playing it
disappoints me greatly the studio version is still not on streaming services, and that the band aren't playing it. i'm hoping they aren't trying to stave off any absurd "controversy" by not playing it
It's on Apple music. Can't speak for Spotify or any other of the horror-shows.
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