2011-11-27 Beacon Theater NY

Sisters collectors for sure, I know a few who would rather take their rarities to the grave than see them enter general circulation. The obsessive nature of the collector.

BUMP

Agreed. It may fully suck, but this is their right. I guess it comes down to general sense of entitlement that's been around since Adam was a boy. I'll give you a real world example that's aligned to this, though not exactly the same, though it does cross over to this later on. 

I know a guy who's HUGE into Jane's Addiction. I'm not talking just having bootlegs and trading etc, this guy BUYS all sorts of things. From studio reels of original recording sessions to old instruments. He followed the band around and would magically smuggle in hand-held camcorders to tape gigs in the dark ages.. He had invested literally tens of thousands of dollars into his obsession. He has two rooms full of Jane's "stuff".

So at some stage, he managed to pay THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for some original demos of one of the albums, and it got out in the community that he had these demos. IMMEDIATELY he was being asked for copies, and when he refused to JUST HAND OUT COPIES OF STUFF HE PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR he was called a hoarder, selfish, and then a litany of words that will end up as asterisks here on this forum. Why? Because he, who put time and a LOT of money into getting something rare, wouldn't just give it away to lazy people who want want want want want, and would do LITERALLY NOTHING to compensate him, or do not tape and share themselves... They want because "well why shouldn't I have the thing you paid money for?" Even though they do nothing to get stuff out there, and just ask, ask, ask. 

That sort of attitude disgusts me.

The same goes for this guy's recordings. He goes to considerable expense to tape these shows, both audio and video, he risks being thrown out of shows, risks possibly getting in trouble and then people have the gall to call him an elitist because he uses these recordings that he made to trade for other rare stuff for a band he loves and works hard to get recordings for. 

I'd dearly love for someone to explain to me, why he should just freely give out copies of stuff he worked hard for, especially when he's one of the very few people willing to go to that level of extreme-fandom to get the goods. Take into account that one person just freely distributing stuff does not immediately remove or negate the RARSWOPONLY crowd.

I'll wait.

The bottom line is if you want to get your hands on rare stuff, you need to play that game. Go tape, hoard it, and reach out to the RARSWOPONLY crowd and join them. Sad, but true. 

You could just rearrange the encores slightly from the previous nights & 'pretend' its the 27th

I am in discussions with the taper for a trade. If anyone has any of these specific shows, PM me... I'll make it worth your while. Yes, a quick handee in the stalls.  


The Bangles 4/20/1989 Seattle Aud (in the collection of Giblet Croft)

The Bangles 8/15/1989 Toronto Aud (in the collection of Giblet Croft)

The Bangles 8/17/1989 Holmdel Aud (in the collection of Giblet Croft)

Belinda Carlisle 1988 Ohio Video (Guy on phishhook.com has / had it)

Belly 4/06/95 Providence Aud (THIS EXISTS)

Depeche Mode 9/10/1993 Worcester DAT Aud (recorded and in the collection of Scott Ellinwood)

Depeche Mode 5/17/1994 Las Vegas DAT Aud (recorded by me - tape lost and possible in Germany)

Rush 4/22/1986 Greensboro Aud (in the collection of Toni Licari)

Steely Dan 7/29/2000 Dallas Aud (in the collection of "Chip Z" on dbetree)

Steely Dan 9/01/2000 Stockholm (reportedly on various old lists)

Steely Dan 9/04/2000 Hamburg Aud (in the collection of "Howie V" on dbetree)

Steely Dan 9/08/2000 Birmingham, UK (a few collectors have this but CDRs are unreadable)

Steely Dan 8/30/2003 Atlantic City Aud (David Ross Felix of Kearny, NJ and employee of RockEyez website has it also Bruce MacKenzie of Vancover Canada)

Steely Dan 7/01/2009 London Aud (appeared on old list)

Steely Dan 10/13/2011 Las Vegas Aud ("tenyearsgone" on dbetree has it and is unresponsive)

Steely Dan 08/15/2014 Springfield Aud (The Traders Den user "fmp" recorded it and is unresponsive)

And any 2013 LatAM shows that have NOT been torrented or shared. 

yep, hence me asking far and wide....