Can someone tell me why several Bundesliga clubs don't always have the same colour for their home shirt?
Norwich in England is mainly yellow, with green decor. Some year, the green decor is really small, like only a trim on the sleeve, some year there may be a green decor on the shirt, one year the shirt was even half yellow half green, but really the colour of the club is clear, it's yellow with green decor.
But for some german clubs, sometimes they completly use their away colour for their home shirt: Leverkusen is supposed to be mainly black, but sometimes it's mainly red, Wolfsburg is mainly green, and sometimes it's white, Koln is white, but some years it was red...
Why is there such changes on their shirt?
Last Edit: Apr 10, 2021 18:23:37 GMT 1 by Fabien G
It's partly for the TV so that the 2 teams are really distinguishable from each other (this happens champions league sometimes) and also so they can sell more replica kits from their store. No-one's going to buy a kit if they haven't seen their heroes wearing it.
Of course if two teams that normally play in red colour have a game together it would be a problem, so one of them has to wear their 'away' colour.
I don't know much about the NBA, but the Chicago Bulls play in red, their jersey may have more or less a bit of white and black. obviously if they play against another team which has a red jersey, thay may use their away kit, mainly white, or third kit, mainly black. But whatever the small fashion design, every year after year, Chicago Bulls is associated with their red colour. They would not say 'This year we'll play in white'. Bulls are red. White or black is their secondary and third colour. Like the celtics are green. Their away and third kit may be white or black or gold. But never one year they will play in white or gold or black as main home kit, they play in green.
Understand what I mean?
Last Edit: Apr 10, 2021 18:53:15 GMT 1 by Fabien G
You could have picked a better English club in your original post...
I'm guessing it's just simply that the clubs wanted to change it, as I don't see a pattern in how, or when, they swap the colours between the Home and Away when I look up the teams kit history.
It'll be interesting if there's more to it, but I don't think there is.
If I am understanding correctly (from the NBA example), you're asking why teams have a different colour home strip from season to season? That is purely to sell more replica kits. Typically they'll use colours from their crests &, in anniversary years, they'll perhaps have something based on a vintage strip which may not look anything like their regular strip. It's purely for $$. These days the kit makers will submit designs & the teams need to sign off on them. Not all of the designs make sense. For example the horrific mess that n!ke made of Liverpool's away strip is ghastly. But then so are most of what n!ke design. Look at the match balls. They look like beach toys for children.
If I am understanding correctly (from the NBA example), you're asking why teams have a different colour home strip from season to season? That is purely to sell more replica kits. Typically they'll use colours from their crests &, in anniversary years, they'll perhaps have something based on a vintage strip which may not look anything like their regular strip. It's purely for $$. These days the kit makers will submit designs & the teams need to sign off on them. Not all of the designs make sense. For example the horrific mess that n!ke made of Liverpool's away strip is ghastly. But then so are most of what n!ke design. Look at the match balls. They look like beach toys for children.
He is asking specifically why some teams have flipped their Home&Away shirts, essentially.
You'll never see Ipswich have a home shirt not blue! (Although Roy Keane tried to change it to red)
It's probably still for $$$ somehow.
Last Edit: Apr 10, 2021 20:13:58 GMT 1 by BlueHughes
To make money, the clubs change their kits design every year anyway, and to make more money, they even do celebration kits, special edition kits, and so on...
But mainly one represent a team with one colour Lakers are yellow, Celtics are green, Bulls are red...
For english clubs, the rare times it shows on website kits history I sometimes think the website just mis-list it (wrongly swap the home & away), but for german clubs it happens more often, so i wonder... Indeed there is maybe no logic to it.
But it surprises me on the contrary because especially the clubs want to sell as many kits as they can, so they must give their approval to the sportwear makers, and I find it strange they agree to change their main kit colour. Usually they let go on away and third kits, so there must be some kind of ... goal, aim, logic. .
Last Edit: Apr 10, 2021 22:15:59 GMT 1 by Fabien G
One thing you also need to consider is that kit manufacturers pay the club a massive amount of money to be their chosen brand. So it's sort of inevitable that the clubs bow to the person with all the cash. Some teams won't play that game though. Dortmund are a good example I think. They have their "yellow wall" at the Westfalenstadion & I don't think they've changed their basic home strip scheme for decades. It's like their brand.
The thing is though, German teams do keep the same home colours, but they for reasons probably given before (tv etc.) often wear the “away” kit at home. I’ve been watching St.Pauli best part of 25 years and their “home” shirt is always predominately brown, however it’s not a surprise at all to see them appear in a home match in the cream away kit, I’ve seen them wear black shirts at home, all sorts and it’s the same with HSV up the road too, predominately white home shirts but can often be seen wearing blue at home, even though they sell them clearly as home and away kits!
It’s even getting like that with international teams now, England were wearing bloody blue at home the other week!
You are right, steve, about the manufacturers paying the club to wear their brand, and your example of Borussia Dortmund is exactly what I meant, with their famous 'yellow wall'. There is no debate about their home kit colour. Like Liverpool and Man Utd play in red (the reds and the red devils), St Etienne in France and the famous green shirt, the canaries from Nantes... That's the point.
I too like wilgy have seen often a club at home playing with their away or third kit, to promote and sell more of these jerseys... But that's a different thing.
As Bluehughes shows with the picture, (I refer to the same website, and also oldfootballshirts and others, and also official club sites), some german clubs really completly swap their home and away club colours. Like leverkusen on year their home shirt is black, and the away shirt is red, the next year their home shirt is red, the away shirt is black. It's really a swap ofcolour kits and it's particularly true to this country.