Totally get why you're scared Chuck. I think any of us would be in your position. & you're right. Local news is way more up to date (& informative) than national. So stay tuned to your local station of choice & take whatever advice you can get. In between bouts of really good music that is Hope you have people around who can help out though. Someone to get to the store for you so you at least are able to eat & so on.
To be fair, I don't think they really knew what it was at first. Once they realised they did try to lock down Wuhan to contain the spread as best they could. But then various governments started falling over themselves to fly their citizens back home en masse. Is it any wonder it's crossed borders?
apologies to @notkristie & all. this is making me very nervous & i got sarcastic. the situation here in washington state is detiorating daily & by all indications is akin to what is happening in Milan with cases most likely in the 4 figures. now that there is adequate testing available it appears the virus has been here since early on undetected & is spreading quickly. the local news is a bit ahead of the national/world coverage in some ways. i am totally in the group that is very at risk. i should have more info today from some calls to doctors i made yesterday. most likely i'm going to have to stop the new RA drug i started recently that is suppressing my immune system which means some extra pain coming my way which is saying a lot. i'm already having a challenge getting around. given the possible alternative, small price to pay i guess. so earlier, it wasn't me being nasty. basically scared shiateless & i don't scare easy nowadays. earlier i mentioned spanish flu outbreak post ww1. definitely interesting reading the history. while times have certainly changed in some ways things are worse regarding potential spread. we need to hope that modern medicine is up to stopping this before it gets totally out of hand. so again, apologies to all. we'll hope for the best.
Things are definitely not as per usual here. It's starting to feel like a ghost town. Subways not as busy, gym empty, sidewalks emptier. The bodega is still shuttered at 1:00 p.m. with the daily bread delivery still outside the shop.
I hadn't considered until today how this would impact my work, but since I put my hands on people for a living (non-sexually, professionally - have to say it). Today I had my first cancellation because someone feared they may have been exposed.
This is, I think, a great time to be outside in nature in the open air.
Things are definitely not as per usual here. It's starting to feel like a ghost town. Subways not as busy, gym empty, sidewalks emptier. The bodega is still shuttered at 1:00 p.m. with the daily bread delivery still outside the shop.
I hadn't considered until today how this would impact my work, but since I put my hands on people for a living (non-sexually, professionally - have to say it). Today I had my first cancellation because someone feared they may have been exposed.
This is, I think, a great time to be outside in nature in the open air.
don't think putting a "like" here is appropriate but appreciate your input
after much consulting with doctors yesterday, there is significant chance i have the virus. not quite up to level for testing (limited testing capacity) but i've been given very specific instructions on how to proceed. it may be side effects from some meds i'm on but erring on the side of caution. i haven't officially been put in quarantine but am treating it like i have in the interest of everyone's well being. have to skip 2 of my favorite bands (wilco & drive-by truckers) on consecutive nights 2 weeks from now. most likely eating the cost of the tickets. somewhat depressing but can't be helped given the circumstances. even if it turns out i don't have the virus i'm still in the high risk group. there have been 9 deaths so far in the US & all of them are in the seattle area. the dynamics are changing daily & quickly. everyone be safe & smart out there. who knows how this is going to turn out but it doesn't hurt to exercise caution.
Jeez, Chuck. Let's hope that potential tests will give a negative result. Hold on and take care, man. Sending al the strength from here.
Here, the virus is also spreading very quickly. I'm starting to hear things like a friend who has a kid who has a teacher that is being already infected. Things like that. Still, people are behaving quite normally, fortunately.
Oh shiat Chuck. Really hoping you get a negative result when/ if tested. Bummer about the gigs, but better safe than sorry. Fingers crossed for the best outcome.
Post by picturesofyou on Mar 6, 2020 0:31:59 GMT 1
chuckrh, I'm deeply sorry, I was planning to write you a couple of days ago but things here are messed up a lot. I didn't want to disappear like this but the last few months have been really tough. And now, as if it wasn't enough, I have to face this... Let me tell you, at first I didn't really believe the virus would've spread to us, and even during the first weekend after the first contagion near Lodi, I wasn't too worried. But unfortunately me and my colleagues studied viruses for a while during uni, we know how they work, and when new cases went from 4 to 200 in 3 days, we understood that something had gone terribly wrong...
The current situation is unbelievable, it seems to live in a very bad disaster movie. And trust me, until it doesn't happen to *you*, you can't really understand how scary and frustrating is to live like this. Milan isn't even in the quarantine zone, but the streets are desert, hotels have received 90% of booking cancellations, restaurants are permanently empty, chinese restaurants have closed. Universities are closed; I'm stuck at home since the 24th, with my sister, and I don't know when I'll be able to go back to work. ALL cultural appointments, football matches, concerts, everything has been cancelled. We are actually paralyzed, and because of this, our economy is almost dead. Most importantly, hospitals are collapsing, because many people require hospitalization and life support machines, and we don't have enough doctors and beds for everyone. Tonight our president spoke to the nation on TV, and usually this is a sign that things are really, REALLY messed up.
Me, I'm fine. I had to cancel a flight for tomorrow, I was planning to meet my friends in London for a weekend but everyone, starting from my immunologist, told me not to go, because for me it's double dangerous. I'm beyond devastated, because now I don't know when I'll see them, but I know this was the right choice. My family is more worried for me than for themselves. My immunologist told me not to suspend immunosuppressants, but to avoid crowded places. I went out only twice during the last 10 days, and let me tell you, I think I'll soon get mad if I go on like this!
Please do not take this situation too lightly. It's not just a flu, and will have a catastrophic impact on global economy.
chuckrh, please let me know how things turn out for you, I promise I'll try to log in more during these next days.
Also, I have a curiosity: how are things *actually* going in US? I couldn't get much from italian TV because we're too busy freaking out about our country.
Hi picturesofyou (Francessca). I am glad to hear from you. I did find out you were ok so far from Nathan a few days ago. I'm hanging in. Like you, my rheumatologist doesn't want me to stop the immuno suppressants yet. He says "the party line" is they aren't considered a factor yet but it could change as they learn more. If I develop a higher fever, I'm to stop them immediately. Or if my current respiratory issues get worse. I'm to call immediately if that happens. I'm not officially in quarantine but effectively I am. As you may have heard, the Seattle area is ground zero in the US. Most of the deaths have been here so far. They think the virus was here for a month before officials knew what was going on. There is so much trade with Asia centered here. Cases where people had nothing to do with that are appearing now. The testing capacity was terribly inadequate but that has changed. Labs at the University of Washington have now been approved & they can handle much more than the state can. In fact, they are doing tests for other states. California is starting to get hit hard now. I think the situation here is probably similar to what it was like in Italy early on but is getting worse daily. Some schools have been closed & some events cancelled. The big companies like Amazon, Microsoft & Boeing (to name a few) are telling employees to work from home if they can for at least the rest of the month. I'm glad that I got out of Boeing last summer. I couldn't handle that on top of everything else. I think there are going to be more cancellations of events coming. The whole thing is like a giant snowball, growing as it speeds downhill. I expect that soon it will be at a level like where you live. They think that most likely there are over 1000 in the area & are working to find out exactly how many & how the virus is spreading. Of course, for people with immune system issues the outlook isn't good right now. You take care of yourself & be careful out there! I don't think this is going to be resolved quickly. The US is just seeing the beginning. I will PM you my email address. Thinking of you! Chuck
Post by picturesofyou on Mar 6, 2020 2:20:00 GMT 1
It is very likely that this thing arrived in Italy way before the first cases were discovered, doctors are hypothesizing at least half January (and in fact in that period they registered a weird peak in pneumonia cases...). We think we registered so many "official" cases only because we're doing more tests than other countries, but numbers could be very similar across Europe. Speaking of tests, how does it work there? Do you have to pay for them?
It is very likely that this thing arrived in Italy way before the first cases were discovered, doctors are hypothesizing at least half January (and in fact in that period they registered a weird peak in pneumonia cases...). We think we registered so many "official" cases only because we're doing more tests than other countries, but numbers could be very similar across Europe. Speaking of tests, how does it work there? Do you have to pay for them?
Right now you have to meet very strict requirements to even be tested. There is a lack of testing materials & capacities. I am meeting most of the requirements but not all. If 1 more is met, I will be tested. I have very strict instructions from my doctors & am to call immediately if that happens. My health insurance will partially pay for any testing. It would cost me something as I have not quite met my deductible for the year. I am getting very close though. It is a crazy system & a lot of people have no insurance or with a very high deductible. Those people are going to be hesitant to go to the doctor. There are fears that stuff like this is going to make the spread of the virus worse. There is way too much money & politics involved with the US health care system. I'll stop before I get into the politics of it. Everyone stay safe.
Post by charlottemargita on Mar 6, 2020 13:38:21 GMT 1
I am sorry to hear that things have gone so bad in Italy and in the US. Today they confirmed the very first case here in Slovakia. But it was just a question of time as it is everywhere now. Take care guys!
It is very likely that this thing arrived in Italy way before the first cases were discovered, doctors are hypothesizing at least half January (and in fact in that period they registered a weird peak in pneumonia cases...). We think we registered so many "official" cases only because we're doing more tests than other countries, but numbers could be very similar across Europe. Speaking of tests, how does it work there? Do you have to pay for them?
Right now you have to meet very strict requirements to even be tested. There is a lack of testing materials & capacities. I am meeting most of the requirements but not all. If 1 more is met, I will be tested. I have very strict instructions from my doctors & am to call immediately if that happens. My health insurance will partially pay for any testing. It would cost me something as I have not quite met my deductible for the year. I am getting very close though. It is a crazy system & a lot of people have no insurance or with a very high deductible. Those people are going to be hesitant to go to the doctor. There are fears that stuff like this is going to make the spread of the virus worse. There is way too much money & politics involved with the US health care system. I'll stop before I get into the politics of it. Everyone stay safe.
It's in moments like this that I am thankful of being in Italy, here tests are entirely paid by the national health care...
after much consulting with doctors yesterday, there is significant chance i have the virus. not quite up to level for testing (limited testing capacity) but i've been given very specific instructions on how to proceed. it may be side effects from some meds i'm on but erring on the side of caution. i haven't officially been put in quarantine but am treating it like i have in the interest of everyone's well being. have to skip 2 of my favorite bands (wilco & drive-by truckers) on consecutive nights 2 weeks from now. most likely eating the cost of the tickets. somewhat depressing but can't be helped given the circumstances. even if it turns out i don't have the virus i'm still in the high risk group. there have been 9 deaths so far in the US & all of them are in the seattle area. the dynamics are changing daily & quickly. everyone be safe & smart out there. who knows how this is going to turn out but it doesn't hurt to exercise caution.
Jeez Chuck that is not good on top of everything else going on. Do you have a fever? I've been reading that is the first thing that really pops up. No sniffles, body aches nothing but a massive fever! If so, get thy some gatorade pronto!! Feel better.