I would travel to NY anytime even if I had to wear an astronaut suit to enter a restaurant.
Ha. We feel much the same about NYC!
Plus, other than day trips down to North Carolina to help our son move in and move out of his dorm, we haven't traveled since November 2019, so it feels long overdue.
Ok. So we are struggling with a decision here… My adult niece is getting married in November. She lives in Florida and, along with her future husband, is confirmed not vaccinated. Her future husband’s entire side of the family are supporters of the twice impeached, one-term former president, and they are not vaccinated either. (I point out their political leanings to note that they are not not vaccinated because of a doctor’s recommendation or any health related reasons.)
The rehearsal dinner, wedding, and reception are all indoors.
They have invited 200 people to the wedding/reception.
They are not asking people to wear masks, in fact they are insisting wedding party and family take off masks for all professional photos.
They have no plans to livestream it for guests that can’t attend or aren’t comfortable traveling/attending.
My parents (in their 80s) are planning to fly down and attend the wedding festivities. They asked my wife’s and my opinion on the risks, we told them we felt it was too risky for them to go.
My wife and I are planning to RSVP our regrets and not go. Our thought is to tell them that if the landscape changes for the better between now and November in the US and in Florida specifically, we will come down for the wedding and reception, but since we are RSVPing a “no” now, we wouldn’t expect them to feed us or anything.
Does that makes sense?
Here’s where things get tricky… My wife and I have a trip to NYC planned for next weekend. Right now, we are still planning to go. Here is our reasoning: NYC has a vaccine mandate in place where you have to show proof of vaccination to go to a restaurant or show or whatever. We wear masks everywhere. The idea of being indoors for the wedding festivities in Florida with people we know are unvaccinated (and in a setting where there will be celebrating and hugs and close contact) seems more risky than going to NYC for a weekend.
Honestly, I'm nervous about going to NYC, too. If it was just up to me, I would likely cancel the NYC trip, too. But it's not just up to me. My wife has her opinions and perspective, and we have to figure out what decision makes the most sense for both of us.
We are really torn about going to NYC from a safety perspective, not to mention the optics of going to NYC this month but RSVPing a “no” to the November wedding in Florida.
Please be kind… Just looking for some feedback. Does either decision make sense? What would you do in our situation?
I made this one - just for you!
NYC is FINE if you are vaxxed - better than fine. Stay out of that ... what was that state called again?
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weedyburton79. I think others have already said what I would also personally do. To add another "con" to the Floriduh event. The decision to not vaccinate seems borne out of an ideology that has no basis in science & (big assumption alert) I'd go so far as to say that others in the happy couple's circle of friends are likely to share that same ideology and won't have even attempted to mitigate any sort of contagion. In short, this simply sounds like a super spreader event. As for NYC. Go. Others before me have already given enough information to make you confident everything possible is being done to contain & minimise any risk. Face it. We can't all be shut away & penned in for the rest of our lives. The vaccination has gone a long way to enable people to be able to just get on with stuff as they always have done. So go. Enjoy yourselves.
weedyburton79 . I think others have already said what I would also personally do. To add another "con" to the Floriduh event. The decision to not vaccinate seems borne out of an ideology that has no basis in science & (big assumption alert) I'd go so far as to say that others in the happy couple's circle of friends are likely to share that same ideology and won't have even attempted to mitigate any sort of contagion. In short, this simply sounds like a super spreader event. As for NYC. Go. Others before me have already given enough information to make you confident everything possible is being done to contain & minimise any risk. Face it. We can't all be shut away & penned in for the rest of our lives. The vaccination has gone a long way to enable people to be able to just get on with stuff as they always have done. So go. Enjoy yourselves.
We don't have to RSVP until the end of this month, but nothing anyone has shared here so far has made us think not attending the Florida event is the wrong decision. Family is tricky, but we have to make the right decisions for us (To put it in a more petty way, if the bride and groom are going to be selfish and not get vaccinated, we have to be selfish and not go to protect ourselves.), and bow out as gracefully as possible.
I will definitely say that the comments here have made me feel better about going to NYC next weekend and enjoying ourselves!
weedyburton79 . I think others have already said what I would also personally do. To add another "con" to the Floriduh event. The decision to not vaccinate seems borne out of an ideology that has no basis in science & (big assumption alert) I'd go so far as to say that others in the happy couple's circle of friends are likely to share that same ideology and won't have even attempted to mitigate any sort of contagion. In short, this simply sounds like a super spreader event. As for NYC. Go. Others before me have already given enough information to make you confident everything possible is being done to contain & minimise any risk. Face it. We can't all be shut away & penned in for the rest of our lives. The vaccination has gone a long way to enable people to be able to just get on with stuff as they always have done. So go. Enjoy yourselves.
We don't have to RSVP until the end of this month, but nothing anyone has shared here so far has made us think not attending the Florida event is the wrong decision. Family is tricky, but we have to make the right decisions for us (To put it in a more petty way, if the bride and groom are going to be selfish and not get vaccinated, we have to be selfish and not go to protect ourselves.), and bow out as gracefully as possible.
I will definitely say that the comments here have made me feel better about going to NYC next weekend and enjoying ourselves!
I realize it's over a week away - but the weather forecast for here (NYC) is really nice for the weekend of the 24th
There is a thing on the internet about the benefits of ingesting betadine as a COVID treatment. Only problem is that it's toxic. In case you don't know, betadine is the stuff they put on cuts & wounds in the hospital. I had to tell a long time friend to quit sending me antivax propaganda. Told her its the height of insanity, selfishness & stupidity & that I though the antivax/antimask crowd should be put in leper colonies. Just my opinion.
The decision to not vaccinate seems borne out of an ideology that has no basis in science
I'd agree with this. For me it comes from intuition and gut mind. I have some friends from over thirty years that I've known as direct action activists who are feeling the same as you lot that the vaccination is necessarry and that refusing to be vaccinated is an irresponsible action, and this is intriguing to me. People who are as cynical as me have done studies and concluded that the vaccine is a good move. They do still speak to me. They are ok with my choice and I'm not an anti vaxxer..It's not you verses me (Not YOU Steve, I mean all of the pro vax folk : ) ) I'm not anti vax...you can choose vax and I'm good with that. Your choice. I might be anti murdering your cat...cos that aint nice..but if you want to have some drugs go have 'em...I'm not in the least anti vax.
I've had pharmaceutical drugs twice in my adult life. Once at near death and told by hospital staff that without pharmaceutical intervention I would be dead in 72 hours. I've no problem with death. I'm good with it, but at the time I was raising two kids and so I took the drugs. Another time the dentist told me I would not be able to use pain management for what he was going to do to me : ) Man, the dentist trips really hurt like hell, I raise the right arm when I cannot cope. The time that he gave me drugs was just bliss..just a dream of a trip and so I can see why people like the pharmaceutical industry but some of us just do not trust them. We do not wish any of you harm. We want you to feel ok with your choices. I really don't want to be enemies with my friends because we choose different.
I agree Steve, I have not made this choice from any scientific reasearch, nor any research. It's from gut mind alone. I'd like for others to respect my choice in this. I'd like to reinforce here, this is not about Covid. I have never had a sleeping pill, a headache tablet or an injection at the dentist (Except on that one blissfull occassion) and this is how I choose to live my life. It may well be selfish but I choose to prevent illness in other ways.
EDIT: I cannot believe that I spelt necessary wrong : (
Edit - last one then I'm gone, and thanks for reading at least....edit is. quote suggests Steve remarked leper colonies...It was Chuckrh...and I do like the idea...send us out to a sunny country with heaps of booze and records...please..lobby your government : ) We can be out of your hair with your co operation - write to your MP NOW!
Edit - last one then I'm gone, and thanks for reading at least....edit is. quote suggests Steve remarked leper colonies...It was Chuckrh...and I do like the idea...send us out to a sunny country with heaps of booze and records...please..lobby your government : ) We can be out of your hair with your co operation - write to your MP NOW!
I was thinking more like Texass, Mississippi or South Dakota.