I really love this song. I think it is best live. One of my absolute favorite versions is the Vienna 2000 concert version. And I heard a sprinkling of End from the Ansan Valley Concert this year and I swear Reeves was doing something different on the guitar. I have yet to find that version to prove my point. There is only a snippet of it attached to another song. I think End of The World.
The lyrics are pretty strong. A priori, they are intended for his fans. I do not know if he is still in this state of mind but it's still hard to hear that. And to have even made a song !
In my opinion, he should not put all his fans in the same bag, although somewhere I can understand him.
Has he ever thought that it could also be a great moral support to sensible, sane people who try to keep their heads above the water every day beyond hysterics and groupies ?
I know he will never read these words, but it does not matter.
Since 2 years, I am in a precarious situation following a separation. It was I who left, it would certainly have turned bad for my daughter and for me, I had an electroshock. Despite very little income and an uncertain situation, I took the plunge.
It is chained material losses, denial of relatives (precariousness also has this effect), bad news, death of my entourage. I spent more time crying than smiling. Alone... And in those moments when we are at the lowest and where we are forsaken, we need support, even if this one is "virtual" and not palpable. We are human beings, we all feel the need to be loved and not to feel alone. If not frankly, one becomes completely crazy or one loses one's head !
So that's what I wanted to talk about. In moments of anguish and total suffering, the music of the Cure is like a loophole and the voice a comforting presence.
My daughter also allows me to hold, this is the most beautiful thing I have done and I only think of her well-being. I am always in a precarious situation, I never go out, do not travel, do not go on weekends, no restaurant, cinema, do not smoke, do not drink (except when there is occasion), does not buy anything (just some clothes for my daughter) except the essentials, food .... No vice is allowed me . In any case, I can not afford it. But all I ask is to continue to be able to dream of Robert and listen freely to his music. And that's still free !
So Robert please, tell yourself that there are very suitable people in your audience and let them have the freedom to appreciate you and enjoy your music.
Post by nausearockpig on Jan 29, 2017 7:28:21 GMT 1
leslie I see what you're saying but I disagree. I think that interpretation is far too literal for ole mate Bobbo.
I see the lyrics being divided into two distinct, but related parts.
The First Part:
I think that in the verses, the writer is saying to his "other" how he's at the end of his tether. Basically all the fire has gone out of him. For instance, this part of the third verse
"///where every word that you write of every blood dark sea and every soul black night, and every dream you dream me in, and every perfect free from sin, and burning eyes and hearts on fire...///"
describes with such emotion and fury the sheer beauty and intense love felt by the subject for another, but the subsequent line(s) say just how dead and boring lifeless those feelings now feel: "//are just the same old song."
It's like before all these things were amazing and beautiful and just mind blowing, and now for whatever reason, be that time, knowing someone fully and deeply, losing the magic, whatever, all these things are "meh" and about as interesting as a piece of paper.
The Second Part:
Then, the choruses relate directly to the writer saying to the other that he is none of those amazing things (previously listed), that he has nothing left to give any more:
He is not the beauty and fire and love and strength that is a wish, or that are hopes. They really just mean nothing, and he has none of these to give to the other. He's hollow inside.
That's my interpretation anyway, I could be completely off the mark.
What a great song though. I'm gonna listen to it now.
Funny story (? well, it's A story). Years ago, back when Wish came out and I still had a Sony Discman (yes....) I was listening to Wish on the train with headphones, and of course I had it up so loud, way too loud. Anyway at the end of End, there's that part where the cymbals are very loud there was a lady sitting two seats ahead of me, and three seats to the right of me (so not that close to me) and she kept looking at me annoyed. Eventually during that part of End, she looks at me and hand signals that I should turn it down. I didn't. She didn't get up and move, neither did I.
Last Edit: Jan 29, 2017 7:31:12 GMT 1 by nausearockpig: "they will retire those T15s soon.".. "Thank the maker!!"
If you have a lead on Brisbane 21 August 1992 - CT version, for the love of Bob, let me know. Please!
nausearockpig Your interpretation is really interesting. I also think this song has a double meaning, a hidden message, subliminal. One can say that the interpreter speaks here to a close person. But when you know how to handle words very well, you can imagine that it goes beyond what is written. Can read between the lines.
I do not blame him, I would not allow myself because I did not live half of what he did. And I am no one to judge him. I just feel a message that he may have wanted to put into a song and that we were eventually destined ... Since then, his vision of things has certainly changed, he writes a lot in the present moment. He certainly needed to exteriorize it at that time.
And like many others, this song is very beautiful. And as you may have noticed, I love to debate the beautiful songs !
Post by acousticwarrior on Mar 30, 2017 20:45:14 GMT 1
This song is pretty clearly about Robert struggling to come to grips with being famous and adulated by millions of people. I saw an interview with him from the Wish period where he said he felt uncomfortable being worshiped, and I don't blame him. Maybe Wish was intended to be the last Cure album and "End" had literal meaning. I know Robert thought about throwing in the towel after the Cut Here/Signal To Noise signal, so perhaps he desired to finish The Cure even earlier.
This song is pretty clearly about Robert struggling to come to grips with being famous and adulated by millions of people. I saw an interview with him from the Wish period where he said he felt uncomfortable being worshiped, and I don't blame him. Maybe Wish was intended to be the last Cure album and "End" had literal meaning. I know Robert thought about throwing in the towel after the Cut Here/Signal To Noise signal, so perhaps he desired to finish The Cure even earlier.
He was allegedly up for jacking it in after Disintegration
This song is pretty clearly about Robert struggling to come to grips with being famous and adulated by millions of people. I saw an interview with him from the Wish period where he said he felt uncomfortable being worshiped, and I don't blame him. Maybe Wish was intended to be the last Cure album and "End" had literal meaning. I know Robert thought about throwing in the towel after the Cut Here/Signal To Noise signal, so perhaps he desired to finish The Cure even earlier.
He was allegedly up for jacking it in after Disintegration
That doesn't surprise me. What would Robert have done without The Cure though? Solo career?