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The Cure Drive Aug 9, 2023 12:53:02 GMT 1

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Post by nausearockpig on Aug 9, 2023 12:53:02 GMT 1

So after a lot of umming and arring, I thought I'd have a crack at starting re-organising my collection into a drive like TheTOOLDrive, APerfectCircleDrive, NINDrive, LiveNirvanaArchive, The Smashing Pumpkins Live Archive, RHCPArchive (and probably many other collections I don't know about, and can't be bothered looking for) for some sort of release out to the world..

I decided I'd go with a folder naming convention of

YYYY-MM-DD

dot

taper initials or 'unk01' (in case there are multiple unknown tapers for a date)

dot

equipment

dash

mics

dot

generation number

dot

format

dot

bitsample

So the Ma.Be 23 April 1992 taped with Aiwa CM30s and aSony WM-D6c would look like this

"TheCure1992-04-23.MaBe.WM-D6c-CM30.0.flac.1644"

Then I would rename the tracks the same as the folder but with a 't' at the end, adding the track number:

TheCure1992-04-23.MaBe.WM-D6c-CM30.0.flac.1644t01

TheCure1992-04-23.MaBe.WM-D6c-CM30.0.flac.1644t02

Then I'd redo the info/text file to look like this:

The Cure
1992-04-23
Caird Hall
Dundee, Scotland

Taper: Ma.Be.
Equipment: Aiwa CM30s > Sony WM-D6c
Transfer: Master Analog Cassettle XLIIS > wt2496 > CEPRO > CDWAV > CD MASTER > EAC > FLAC
Generation: 0

More infos: www.cure-concerts.de/concerts/1992-04-23.php

Setlist
Intro:
Tape
Main set:
Open

Encore 1:

Tracks
01. Tape
02. Open

MD5 FINGERPRINTS:

I'd make a little spreadsheet and add in all the information for the show then move onto the next one. On and on.

I had a go at 1979-03-11 tonight and it took me a while to rename the tracks, and do the tagging etc, something like half an hour with all the faffing about on XACT, so I guess it could take less time, but the info file was a bit of a pain...

I figured I could do one a night, nice and cruisey, not taking it too seriously, not devoting too much time to it, but definitely making it a priority each night and getting on with the business of doing it. I'd get some online storage, maybe a Google Drive, and start uploading. My The Cure folder is ~4TB in size so I'd need two Google One accounts as the max they have is 2TB at $124 per year, which I guess is OK...

Then I had a look at how many shows and individual sources (folders) I have listed: 2929 folders for 1251 dates. If I did one source (folder) a night, every night, it would take just over eight years to complete the project. Assuming nothing went wrong... I simply do not have the interest, or motivation to do that, nor do I want to take up the next eight years of my life in doing this.

If anyone else has considered doing this, please feel free to share your story, I'd be interested in what you thought about it.

If you have a lead on Brisbane 21 August 1992 - CT version, for the love of Bob, let me know. Please!

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Post by gongoro73 on Aug 9, 2023 16:03:09 GMT 1

I have all my recordings (much moooooore less than you, I’m not a completist and I’m only interested in certain years) placed in folders by year, and that’s all I need to enjoy them. To be honest, I’m glad I don’t need all that data about tapers, equipment, transfers, lineage etc to be happy. It sounds stressful. I play a gig, and if I like it because the concert was very good or interesting, because it sounds nice or whatever reason I will probably listen to it again. If don’t, I forget about it. I don’t go further than that. What you guys do it is beyond me. But please, don’t get me wrong, I’m not criticizing it. On the contrary, your world of tapers and sharing amazes me and I’m endlessly grateful of everything you do to record, preserve and share –particulary you, who generously shared with me lots of 82 recordings some years ago–. Just sharing my ‘story’.

Apologies for my rudimentary English.

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Aug 9, 2023 16:03:09 GMT 1 gongoro73 said:

I have all my recordings (much moooooore less than you, I’m not a completist and I’m only interested in certain years) placed in folders by year, and that’s all I need to enjoy them. To be honest, I’m glad I don’t need all that data about tapers, equipment, transfers, lineage etc to be happy. It sounds stressful. I play a gig, and if I like it because the concert was very good or interesting, because it sounds nice or whatever reason I will probably listen to it again. If don’t, I forget about it. I don’t go further than that. What you guys do it is beyond me. But please, don’t get me wrong, I’m not criticizing it. On the contrary, your world of tapers and sharing amazes me and I’m endlessly grateful of everything you do to record, preserve and share –particulary you, who generously shared with me lots of 82 recordings some years ago–. Just sharing my ‘story’.

I like your point of view, and the way you're going. It's very similar to my use and enjoyment of shows. When listening, I'm not really concerned with all the equipment, transfer etc, the only thing that interests me is the taper, for instance, I know that the MB shows are generally very good. I mark each show's sound quality in a spreadsheet for future reference.

But that level of detail I talked about really increased the amount of work to get the file sets identified for the people that would be the users of the drive.

It's too bad it's such a huge job, I simply can't be bothered spending the time and effort to do it myself, and can't be bothered creating a whole project with world-wide resources to get it all done. I'll leave that for someone else to do, or not!

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Post by bluewater on Aug 10, 2023 8:53:06 GMT 1

I think your priority should be in creating a database with all that info. In making the spreadsheets I think your on the right track. That would allow people to make searches and see what you have, etc. That said, I've never done databases or linked them to files and folders. There should be programs for that. I think with all that info a database would have much more value than just keeping the files and folders in neat order.

One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain
So hit me with music, hit me with music

chuckrh Songs Of A Lost World Posts: 10,920	The Cure Drive Aug 10, 2023 9:25:53 GMT 1 nausearockpig likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by chuckrh on Aug 10, 2023 9:25:53 GMT 1 I've got my hard drives organized in alphabetical order. I can find stuff now! It was a huge project at the time. Videos have separate drives.

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Aug 10, 2023 8:53:06 GMT 1 bluewater said:

I think your priority should be in creating a database with all that info. In making the spreadsheets I think your on the right track. That would allow people to make searches and see what you have, etc. That said, I've never done databases or linked them to files and folders. There should be programs for that. I think with all that info a database would have much more value than just keeping the files and folders in neat order.

Had i decided to go ahead with it, I would have ended up mirroring (read that as 'copying') the TOOLDrive format

tooldriveproject.net/

tooldriveproject.net/Details/?ID=2705

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Aug 10, 2023 9:25:53 GMT 1 chuckrh said:

I've got my hard drives organized in alphabetical order. I can find stuff now! It was a huge project at the time. Videos have separate drives.

I've got my shows spread across two five TB and one three TB drives, backed up to clones of themselves of course (I've been thru the pain of losing drives - before I smartened up and started a regular backup schedule), but I keep my videos with the audio. Except for TheTOOLDrive and TheTOOLVideoDrive, those are separate.

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Aug 10, 2023 10:14:03 GMT 1 nausearockpig said:

Aug 10, 2023 9:25:53 GMT 1 chuckrh said:

I've got my hard drives organized in alphabetical order. I can find stuff now! It was a huge project at the time. Videos have separate drives.

I've got my shows spread across two five TB and one three TB drives, backed up to clones of themselves of course (I've been thru the pain of losing drives - before I smartened up and started a regular backup schedule), but I keep my videos with the audio. Except for TheTOOLDrive and TheTOOLVideoDrive, those are separate.

On the big ones like the Cure & NIN I break them down by year, If I don't know the exact year I can usually guess pretty well. I've got 5 drives going 1 to 10 TB. I think maybe I'm going to get a backup tower for the key stuff. I've got some Best Buy gift cards I can use. I'll watch for a sale. I've only had 1 fail. Luckily there was nothing important on it.

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Aug 10, 2023 8:53:06 GMT 1 bluewater said:

I think your priority should be in creating a database with all that info... I think with all that info a database would have much more value than just keeping the files and folders in neat order.

I organize by date, then by geographic location, then venue. As I'm not a trader or taper (GOD bless them), I figure I don't need to readily have access to a higher level of data in a searchable format. That's what other obsessives are for. (puke)

But, I do save any and all source info however it was received.

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Post by steve on Aug 10, 2023 20:20:09 GMT 1

I don't change any of the file info at all. Just chuck them into folders by year.
If I need to find a show, finder is my go to.
One bug bear for me is folders that begin with "The Cure". I know it's The Cure. You don't need to include that redundant bit of information really

Tear out the pages with all the bad news

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Aug 10, 2023 20:20:09 GMT 1 steve said:

I don't change any of the file info at all. Just chuck them into folders by year.
If I need to find a show, finder is my go to.
One bug bear for me is folders that begin with "The Cure". I know it's The Cure. You don't need to include that redundant bit of information really

I find the that different people who create and provide file sets to us all have different ways of naming things, like dates and using dashes or dots or spaces or no spaces between say years, months and days or they position the date after the location (eg Cure-MSG-2016-08-22 (yes i made the date up - cbf checking it)) so that messes with the folder order within a "year" folder..

people who don't' do things exactly my way, (ie they do it incorrectly) are so annoying! hahahh

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I have them broken down in 'year' folders as well.. Then within each year there are subfolders of conecert by date/ venue.. I borrowed the naming convention from cureconcertes.de

For example

2022-12-07 Birmingham - Utilita Arena Birmingham (England)
2022-12-11 London - OVO Arena Wembley (England)

Each date will then have recording(s) in their own folder, named as whatever they were downloaded as.

Hope that makes sense..

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Aug 11, 2023 7:27:28 GMT 1 carlfandango said:

I have them broken down in 'year' folders as well.. Then within each year there are subfolders of conecert by date/ venue.. I borrowed the naming convention from cureconcertes.de

For example

2022-12-07 Birmingham - Utilita Arena Birmingham (England)
2022-12-11 London - OVO Arena Wembley (England)

Each date will then have recording(s) in their own folder, named as whatever they were downloaded as.

Hope that makes sense..

That is also where I chose my naming convention. I love cure-concerts.de. They are one of only 3 cure-related websites I have bookmarked.

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Aug 11, 2023 7:27:28 GMT 1 carlfandango said:

I have them broken down in 'year' folders as well.. Then within each year there are subfolders of conecert by date/ venue.. I borrowed the naming convention from cureconcertes.de

For example

2022-12-07 Birmingham - Utilita Arena Birmingham (England)
2022-12-11 London - OVO Arena Wembley (England)

Each date will then have recording(s) in their own folder, named as whatever they were downloaded as.

Hope that makes sense..

That is also where I chose my naming convention. I love cure-concerts.de. They are one of only 3 cure-related websites I have bookmarked.

I have only two. Wich is the third one? The official one?

Apologies for my rudimentary English.

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Aug 11, 2023 19:50:34 GMT 1 gongoro73 said:

Aug 11, 2023 16:03:38 GMT 1 @notkristie said:

That is also where I chose my naming convention. I love cure-concerts.de. They are one of only 3 cure-related websites I have bookmarked.

I have only two. Wich is the third one? The official one?

The third one is: curenews.net/archives/. Haven't had time to read through it all but I didn't want to lose it.

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