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And Nothing Is Forever Oct 11, 2022 23:49:30 GMT 1 DarthBlood and the18th like this

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Post by nausearockpig on Oct 11, 2022 23:49:30 GMT 1

Oct 11, 2022 22:12:19 GMT 1 paleiko said:

Oct 11, 2022 12:40:36 GMT 1 monghi said:

one of the best Cure songs ever!!!

I remember when "Before Three" debuted live prior to the album release many people were saying the same and also things like "already an instant classic" but later when the studio version on the album had been heared you barely read anything like this anymore.

Let´s wait and see how the album version is going to sound.

Or some of us could enjoy it now and think it's great, and continue to do so once the record comes out, or some of us might not feel that way.

I didn't like Before Three when it came out live, and still don't really care for it.

Diiff'rent Strokes for different folks.

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And Nothing Is Forever Oct 12, 2022 0:07:46 GMT 1

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Post by paleiko on Oct 12, 2022 0:07:46 GMT 1

It is not about liking or not liking the song in general, but declaring it as one of the best Cure songs ever, based on a low quality live-version.

This song can sound a lot different on the album. I was mentioning "Before Three" because it has a notable different feel/atmosphere on the album compared to the first live version.

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Post by nausearockpig on Oct 12, 2022 0:13:57 GMT 1

Oct 11, 2022 17:25:34 GMT 1 the18th said:

Oct 11, 2022 16:59:56 GMT 1 the18th said:

At the same time, as the lyrics reminded me of Lovesong...

"HOWEVER FAR AWAY
I will always love you"

At first I thought it could be related...

But then I noticed what happened at second 0:34 in the video below, which made me believe the lyrics / the song means a lot to Robert...

Yeh and before that Reeves goes up to him seemingly to do something similar but backs off.

The line pulled directly from Lovesong to me indicated initially that it's a song about aging together (with Mary) but the lullaby lines seem to talk to parents? I guess from the pat Simon gave him, and what's happened in the last few years it's more parenty? Who knows....

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Post by nausearockpig on Oct 12, 2022 0:18:34 GMT 1

Oct 12, 2022 0:07:46 GMT 1 paleiko said:

It is not about liking or not liking the song in general, but declaring it as one of the best Cure songs ever, based on a low quality live-version.

This song can sound a lot different on the album. I was mentioning "Before Three" because it has a notable different feel/atmosphere on the album compared to the first live version.

Maybe monghi thinks its one of the best songs ever? Is he not allowed to think that based on what you've seen??

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paleiko The Top member Posts: 518	And Nothing Is Forever Oct 12, 2022 0:31:36 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by paleiko on Oct 12, 2022 0:31:36 GMT 1 Maybe you should read postings in a proper way instead of misreading them and twisting things around in manipulative way?

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And Nothing Is Forever Oct 12, 2022 2:06:37 GMT 1

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Post by nausearockpig on Oct 12, 2022 2:06:37 GMT 1

Oct 12, 2022 0:31:36 GMT 1 paleiko said:

Maybe you should read postings in a proper way instead of misreading them and twisting things around in manipulative way?

lol....

yeah I'll probably spend a lot of time reading and re-reading your posts... stand by.....

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And Nothing Is Forever Oct 15, 2022 20:03:23 GMT 1

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Post by sandgrounder on Oct 15, 2022 20:03:23 GMT 1

Robert's parents and one of his brothers died very close to each other. I thought "It Can Never Be the Same" was more about them.

To me this song it more about things coming to an end, lives of family and friends, maybe even the end of the band.

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And Nothing Is Forever Nov 10, 2022 14:06:37 GMT 1 via mobile

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Post by thebighand on Nov 10, 2022 14:06:37 GMT 1

Oct 11, 2022 16:51:54 GMT 1 the18th said:

Oct 11, 2022 16:50:14 GMT 1 the18th said:

You are probably right...

I had read this as a love song for Mary. The fact it's normally played right after "Lovesong" suggested that reading to me. But your interpretation is also possible.

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Post by thebighand on Nov 10, 2022 14:13:44 GMT 1

Oct 11, 2022 22:12:19 GMT 1 paleiko said:

Oct 11, 2022 12:40:36 GMT 1 monghi said:

one of the best Cure songs ever!!!

I remember when "Before Three" debuted live prior to the album release many people were saying the same and also things like "already an instant classic" but later when the studio version on the album had been heared you barely read anything like this anymore.

Let´s wait and see how the album version is going to sound.

I agree about Before 3: I had liked I in its live rendition before the album release; it disappointed me on the album.

That's why I'm a bit "anxious" about how these new songs will land on the album. Mixing and production were mediocre on the last 2 albums.

On the other hand, Paul Corkett is producing this one and he did a good job on Bloodflowers. So I want to stay positive about it :-)

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Post by reclevel on Jul 1, 2023 15:02:43 GMT 1

For me in this song Robert imagines the end of his own life, wrapped around tha arms of the one who has to be there with him in the end, after all, even their love will come to an end, nothing is forever. Lyrically and musically they are reaching such high levels of sensitivity, I can't help but admire such masterpieces.

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Post by Pipperoo on Jul 1, 2023 15:10:56 GMT 1

Jul 1, 2023 15:02:43 GMT 1 reclevel said:

For me in this song Robert imagines the end of his own life, wrapped around tha arms of the one who has to be there with him in the end, after all, even their love will come to an end, nothing is forever. Lyrically and musically they are reaching such high levels of sensitivity, I can't help but admire such masterpieces.

Yes he's had so much death around him in such a short period, I'm not surprised. This song grew on me. At first I was like blah but once you hear it live you get hooked. And at his age you do start to think of your mortality. I'm right behind him.

"The moon will change your mind."

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Post by nausearockpig on Jul 2, 2023 23:40:05 GMT 1

I was watching one of the recently uploaded US tour vids on YT and I'm pretty sure that before or after this song RS said "I wrote that one for my dad, I wish I'd written it earlier", or maybe he said "sooner", regardless, the intention was that it was about or for his dad.

There def seems to be a shift towards facing and being acutely aware of his own mortality in these new songs.

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Jul 2, 2023 23:40:05 GMT 1 nausearockpig said:

I was watching one of the recently uploaded US tour vids on YT and I'm pretty sure that before or after this song RS said "I wrote that one for my dad, I wish I'd written it earlier", or maybe he said "sooner", regardless, the intention was that it was about or for his dad.

There def seems to be a shift towards facing and being acutely aware of his own mortality in these new songs.

And it seems Simon had adopted it to pay homage to his wife who recently passed by putting his bass up in the air at the end. Beautiful. Really grew on me this one.

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