It was only last week that the the first case was detected a year ago & we are all still flailing about trying this & that & yet, as long as there are yahoos ignoring the advice, it will linger & spread even further. If China had been left alone to lock down the province it originated from, instead of allowing governments falling over themselves to get people out of there as quickly as possible, the devastation would never have been like what we have seen. It's effectively been imported by ignorant people who thought they knew best. I am pretty fed up. Almost to the point where i just want to say, "Hell, fcuk it. " But that's not going to help anyone.
I'm trying to ignore the numbers as much as i can. They are indeed overwhelming &, to an extent, I think that's by design so that people are aware of the magnitude. It can be hard to ignore & it is very upsetting if you let it get to you. Truth is, there's very little any one person can do about it. All you can do as an individual is take whatever precautions you can to protect yourself & others that you come into contact with. I have got through so much disinfectant in the last 6 months cleaning all the hand rails on the stair case in my apartment house. Just wish the neighbours would do it from time to time, but, with the exception of the new couple across the hallway & the old couple downstairs, nobody seems to care too much. I'd leave the spray bottle out for them if I thought it would make a difference. But the bottom line is I am doing my bit to be careful & to help out some people who are too terrified to even go out to the shops. & the reason they're terrified? The constant bombardment of the numbers each day. Try (& I know it can be hard) to focus on the day to day, the fact that of the reported cases, a large proportion are asymptomatic & that an even larger proportion will recover. The treatments are much more effective now & as they're detecting infections earlier then chances are so much better. I know that doesn't mean this isn't a truly horrific event & I know it's really tough for everyone, but there's little else one can do really. Just hang in there & we'll get through it. Together.
Post by weedyburton79 on Nov 24, 2020 20:40:06 GMT 1
My wife still has her staff cleaning desks and surfaces daily. I think there is nothing wrong with cleaning, I’m sure her offices have been kept up better than they ever have before, but let’s be honest… the surface cleaning is no more effective than the security theater we all go through at the airport. (Oh, man. Remember airports…? )
I'm guessing the cleaning is helping more with cutting down on potential cold and flu transmission than anything else at this point, which is still a good thing (assuming the chemicals we're all over using aren't killing us, too).
Post by weedyburton79 on Nov 24, 2020 20:41:37 GMT 1
A friend mentioned to me yesterday that his doctor told him the first vaccines would be in Ohio in about three weeks. I didn’t believe him. I guess I was wrong.
Post by weedyburton79 on Nov 24, 2020 20:49:30 GMT 1
My youngest is coming home from college today. He took a COVID test at school on Thursday, and it came back negative. He’s isolated since then, only going to classes Friday and yesterday, and not socializing with friends, etc. He’s going to isolate when he gets home tonight for a couple of weeks… keeping to his bedroom and only using his bathroom. We aren’t going to eat in the same room together or watch TV in the same room together, we’ll be wearing masks when we’re in the same room, etc. No Thanksgiving celebrations for us in any way. (Yesterday was my dad’s 80th birthday. Won’t get to see him for a while, though, with this current surge of cases.) His fall semester classes are complete now. Final exams are remote from home over the next two weeks, then he’s done until spring semester starts up in January.
There is a very tangible mix of hope and despair right now between the cases rising so dramatically with healthcare worker shortages and morons without masks, mixed with the good news we’ve been getting about vaccines over the last week or so. Very strange times.
My wife still has her staff cleaning desks and surfaces daily. I think there is nothing wrong with cleaning, I’m sure her offices have been kept up better than they ever have before, but let’s be honest… the surface cleaning is no more effective than the security theater we all go through at the airport. (Oh, man. Remember airports…? )
I'm guessing the cleaning is helping more with cutting down on potential cold and flu transmission than anything else at this point, which is still a good thing (assuming the chemicals we're all over using aren't killing us, too).
I'm not taking any chances really. If it's transferred via droplets, then I'll clean the buggers off the hand rails just for peace of mind if nothing else
The infection rate in my home province is skyrocketing. The provincial government has taken steps to reduce the virus from further spreading (e.g. gyms have closed, citizens are restricted from having guests inside their homes, religious services have been cancelled etc) yet schools are still open. To me, that’s a head scratcher.
The infection rate in my home province is skyrocketing. The provincial government has taken steps to reduce the virus from further spreading (e.g. gyms have closed, citizens are restricted from having guests inside their homes, religious services have been cancelled etc) yet schools are still open. To me, that’s a head scratcher.
I'm sorry you all are having a bad spike. It's a terrible feeling.
I'm also really glad your govt is taking it seriously. The head scratcher for me and lots of others here is how indoor dining, bars and gyms are open, but schools are not. While the city met the benchmark set for school closures (a 3% or > 7-day rolling average), the infection rate within the public schools was significantly lower, as determined through random student and staff testing. It's infuriating to me that our lives are again upended in this way and my kid's education is again in the cr@pper, yet we can stroll down to a restaurant and have a bite inside.
But I say this recognizing there a NO easy answers, and that we all share the inconveniences of this time. Closing businesses means people losing work and that's more awful in many ways than kids having to do their lessons online. In this climate, if one has enough food, can pay rent / mortgage, and is not in an unhealthy / abusive home situation, it's time to count blessings.
Take care, Danielle, and I'm wishing you comfort and safety.
My youngest is coming home from college today. He took a COVID test at school on Thursday, and it came back negative. He’s isolated since then, only going to classes Friday and yesterday, and not socializing with friends, etc. He’s going to isolate when he gets home tonight for a couple of weeks… keeping to his bedroom and only using his bathroom. We aren’t going to eat in the same room together or watch TV in the same room together, we’ll be wearing masks when we’re in the same room, etc. No Thanksgiving celebrations for us in any way. (Yesterday was my dad’s 80th birthday. Won’t get to see him for a while, though, with this current surge of cases.) His fall semester classes are complete now. Final exams are remote from home over the next two weeks, then he’s done until spring semester starts up in January.
There is a very tangible mix of hope and despair right now between the cases rising so dramatically with healthcare worker shortages and morons without masks, mixed with the good news we’ve been getting about vaccines over the last week or so. Very strange times.
Hurrah on your son coming home! It sounds like you all are doing this in a very sane and responsible way. Question is, now that you and Mrs. Weedy-b are used to an empty nest will January come soon enough?
Keep on staying safe and find some good indoor hobbies for winter. (Not midday boinking now that your son is home).
My wife still has her staff cleaning desks and surfaces daily. I think there is nothing wrong with cleaning, I’m sure her offices have been kept up better than they ever have before, but let’s be honest… the surface cleaning is no more effective than the security theater we all go through at the airport. (Oh, man. Remember airports…? )
I'm guessing the cleaning is helping more with cutting down on potential cold and flu transmission than anything else at this point, which is still a good thing (assuming the chemicals we're all over using aren't killing us, too).
I'm super surface cleaning focused in my office, but at home no more than usual. Even at the onset, I was never one for wiping down my groceries when I got home, etc. We have a hard and fast rule than whenever coming in from being out we immediately wash our hands. That, and I never touch my face and try not to open doors by the handle outside our home (my pet peeve is the bathroom door at work, where there are no paper towels to open the door and it's a knob instead of a handle, so you have to really grip it). I think it's really hand hygiene and keeping your hands off your face that is most important.
I'm of the mindset that excessive cleaning of surfaces may be harmful, and not just from a cleaning product perspective. It's the whole "let babies eat some filth" school of thought. Our immune systems need some exercise, I think. Lick a few floors for good health, lol.
My youngest is coming home from college today. He took a COVID test at school on Thursday, and it came back negative. He’s isolated since then, only going to classes Friday and yesterday, and not socializing with friends, etc. He’s going to isolate when he gets home tonight for a couple of weeks… keeping to his bedroom and only using his bathroom. We aren’t going to eat in the same room together or watch TV in the same room together, we’ll be wearing masks when we’re in the same room, etc. No Thanksgiving celebrations for us in any way. (Yesterday was my dad’s 80th birthday. Won’t get to see him for a while, though, with this current surge of cases.) His fall semester classes are complete now. Final exams are remote from home over the next two weeks, then he’s done until spring semester starts up in January.
There is a very tangible mix of hope and despair right now between the cases rising so dramatically with healthcare worker shortages and morons without masks, mixed with the good news we’ve been getting about vaccines over the last week or so. Very strange times.
I'm trying to ignore the numbers as much as i can. They are indeed overwhelming &, to an extent, I think that's by design so that people are aware of the magnitude. It can be hard to ignore & it is very upsetting if you let it get to you. Truth is, there's very little any one person can do about it. All you can do as an individual is take whatever precautions you can to protect yourself & others that you come into contact with. I have got through so much disinfectant in the last 6 months cleaning all the hand rails on the stair case in my apartment house. Just wish the neighbours would do it from time to time, but, with the exception of the new couple across the hallway & the old couple downstairs, nobody seems to care too much. I'd leave the spray bottle out for them if I thought it would make a difference. But the bottom line is I am doing my bit to be careful & to help out some people who are too terrified to even go out to the shops. & the reason they're terrified? The constant bombardment of the numbers each day. Try (& I know it can be hard) to focus on the day to day, the fact that of the reported cases, a large proportion are asymptomatic & that an even larger proportion will recover. The treatments are much more effective now & as they're detecting infections earlier then chances are so much better. I know that doesn't mean this isn't a truly horrific event & I know it's really tough for everyone, but there's little else one can do really. Just hang in there & we'll get through it. Together.
The numbers are so depressing. I remember I was upset enough to cry the first morning we woke up to hear 100 people in the city had died the day before. Little did I know that was nothing. After that, I just didn't watch the numbers at all, and I remember, as you are saying, making a decision to just try to focus on the day by day.
It's hard to let my mind go back to how bad it was back in April, but I suppose it could be worse than that again? Who knows? I do solidly feel that from a time perspective, we are on the downhill portion here. I think we all need to just hang on here for a number of months more.
My youngest is coming home from college today. He took a COVID test at school on Thursday, and it came back negative. He’s isolated since then, only going to classes Friday and yesterday, and not socializing with friends, etc. He’s going to isolate when he gets home tonight for a couple of weeks… keeping to his bedroom and only using his bathroom. We aren’t going to eat in the same room together or watch TV in the same room together, we’ll be wearing masks when we’re in the same room, etc. No Thanksgiving celebrations for us in any way. (Yesterday was my dad’s 80th birthday. Won’t get to see him for a while, though, with this current surge of cases.) His fall semester classes are complete now. Final exams are remote from home over the next two weeks, then he’s done until spring semester starts up in January.
There is a very tangible mix of hope and despair right now between the cases rising so dramatically with healthcare worker shortages and morons without masks, mixed with the good news we’ve been getting about vaccines over the last week or so. Very strange times.
Will he be returning to school in January? ?
Oh, we have no idea! There has been no discussion of that, just vagaries like, "temporary."
My best guess is that we will remain out of school through the Christmas holiday and then return in January if the numbers are good. I think they don't want to risk exposure from people who are going to travel and socialize indoors over the holidays and many, many are doing that, be damned what the official advice and restrictions are.
The infection rate in my home province is skyrocketing. The provincial government has taken steps to reduce the virus from further spreading (e.g. gyms have closed, citizens are restricted from having guests inside their homes, religious services have been cancelled etc) yet schools are still open. To me, that’s a head scratcher.
I'm sorry you all are having a bad spike. It's a terrible feeling.
I'm also really glad your govt is taking it seriously. The head scratcher for me and lots of others here is how indoor dining, bars and gyms are open, but schools are not. While the city met the benchmark set for school closures (a 3% or > 7-day rolling average), the infection rate within the public schools was significantly lower, as determined through random student and staff testing. It's infuriating to me that our lives are again upended in this way and my kid's education is again in the cr@pper, yet we can stroll down to a restaurant and have a bite inside.
But I say this recognizing there a NO easy answers, and that we all share the inconveniences of this time. Closing businesses means people losing work and that's more awful in many ways than kids having to do their lessons online. In this climate, if one has enough food, can pay rent / mortgage, and is not in an unhealthy / abusive home situation, it's time to count blessings.
Take care, Danielle, and I'm wishing you comfort and safety.
I cannot believe gyms and restaurants are open in your area !
And I certainly count all the blessings in my life several times a day, I feel very fortunate to be working and making my regular salary.
After 19 years with the same organization, my sister lost her job nearly two weeks ago due to COVID. There’s a possibility that they’ll call her back, but who knows! Btw - she held a unionized position, and even with that they were unable to redeploy her to a different department. Sigh.