My city is under such restrictions, @notkristie. We have half de COVID cases detected in my country, Spain. Everyday it passes, a new restriction is taken and announced. A couple of days ago, they suspended all scholar activities for the next two weeks. Yesterday, they suspended +1000 people gatherings and events. It won't be long til they will announce we can't travel outside or people coming here 'until the spread of the virus is controlled. We all know we are going to be in Italy's situation in a couple of weeks, maybe sooner.
But anyway, we know what it is at stake so we take this restrictions as something we need to do right now, as elder people and certain groups of risk are in real danger and people is dying everyday. So it is everybody's responsibility to be civic and not complain or rant about this dystopian, unreal situation. It is what it is and it is happening for real, like it or not. There are certain people who's doing stupid things like buying toilet paper for a year leaving the supermarket shelves empty, but that is the minority. We have a universal Health Care System that covers every citizen and that's a bless. We don't panic. We keep smiling. Please, fellow americans, do the same, cheer up!
My city is under such restrictions, @notkristie . We have half de COVID cases detected in my country, Spain. Everyday it passes, a new restriction is taken and announced. A couple of days ago, they suspended all scholar activities for the next two weeks. Yesterday, they suspended +1000 people gatherings and events. It won't be long til they will announce we can't travel outside or people coming here 'until the spread of the virus is controlled. We all know we are going to be in Italy's situation in a couple of weeks, maybe sooner.
But anyway, we know what it is at stake so we take this restrictions as something we need to do right now, as elder people and certain groups of risk are in real danger and people is dying everyday. So it is everybody's responsibility to be civic and not complain or rant about this dystopian, unreal situation. It is what it is and it is happening for real, like it or not. There are certain people who's doing stupid things like buying toilet paper for a year leaving the supermarket shelves empty, but that is the minority. We have a universal Health Care System that covers every citizen and that's a bless. We don't panic. We keep smiling. Please, fellow americans, do the same, cheer up!
Your post made me laugh - thanks, gongoro73! Our babysitter last night works at Trader Joe's and said stupid people have bought all the toilet paper and are using it to make their own face masks!!! That would be good to see for a laugh.
I'm sorry you are being restricted. Your outlook is like Mr K's: it's our civic duty to help protect those who are at danger. I guess I'm just an a$$hole. You are a good egg.
Hope you aren't too bored!!! I know some good indoor workouts that don't require a gym or equipment if things get worse. Like a prison cell workout, lol.
Your post made me laugh - thanks, gongoro73 ! Our babysitter last night works at Trader Joe's and said stupid people have bought all the toilet paper and are using it to make their own face masks!!! That would be good to see for a laugh.
I'm sorry you are being restricted. Your outlook is like Mr K's: it's our civic duty to help protect those who are at danger. I guess I'm just an a$$hole. You are a good egg.
Hope you aren't too bored!!! I know some good indoor workouts that don't require a gym or equipment if things get worse. Like a prison cell workout, lol.
Hahaha, no I'm not bored at all, I've been working from home the last 20 years so this is nothing new for me. Anyway, we are not confined in our homes yet. We are allowed to go out, take public transport and interact with other people. But I'm so busy I can't go out despite we have a beautiful sunny day! Damn!
Post by weedyburton79 on Mar 11, 2020 15:49:20 GMT 1
My perspective has evolved on this over the last few days. In Ohio we have seen many colleges and universities make the decision to convert to online classes for the remainder of the month (a move that is probably not long enough in duration to get through this, but at least a start). One of my very good friends of 40+ years and his wife are college professors in North Carolina. His wife is the director of the schools summer program in Cádiz. His take is that schools here are trying to prevent the situation that’s unfolding in Europe now. Like gongoro73 said, schools in Spain closed yesterday, but that was probably two weeks too late. The thinking is, if you wait for the tipping point to try and contain this in the US through social distancing, you’ll have waited until it is too late.
But that also might be the nuance a lot of people are missing, @notkristie … Social distancing is not a full-on lockdown and complete isolation. Social distancing is restricting large public gatherings (like music festivals), closing certain buildings (like schools), and canceling certain events, along with keeping a one to two meter distance from a sick person (WHO recommends one meter; US CDC recommends two meters), and avoiding physical contact with the sick (handshakes, hugs, etc.).
There is no reason to stockpile food and water. There is no reason to hoard hand sanitizer. This is about common sense and some temporary adjustments to everyday life in order to contain this.
But that also might be the nuance a lot of people are missing, @notkristie … Social distancing is not a full-on lockdown and complete isolation. Social distancing is restricting large public gatherings (like music festivals), closing certain buildings (like schools), and canceling certain events, along with keeping a one to two meter distance from a sick person (WHO recommends one meter; US CDC recommends two meters), and avoiding physical contact with the sick (handshakes, hugs, etc.).
I think I am one of the people who is operating under a different understanding of what the most extreme forms of social distancing that have been enacted are, then. It doesn't help that the media is using the term "lockdown" in regards to Italy, China, etc. I tried to research what the restrictions actually are in Italy and from what I read people are restricted to going to the grocery store, "gathering in public places" (does not specify crowd size) and are not to be closer than a meter to anyone, sick or not.
Those measures sound very different to what you are describing above...
Eff it. The work day has passed and I'm just glad I can't work from home. I would, indeed, go stir crazy!
But that also might be the nuance a lot of people are missing, @notkristie … Social distancing is not a full-on lockdown and complete isolation. Social distancing is restricting large public gatherings (like music festivals), closing certain buildings (like schools), and canceling certain events, along with keeping a one to two meter distance from a sick person (WHO recommends one meter; US CDC recommends two meters), and avoiding physical contact with the sick (handshakes, hugs, etc.).
I think I am one of the people who is operating under a different understanding of what the most extreme forms of social distancing that have been enacted are, then. It doesn't help that the media is using the term "lockdown" in regards to Italy, China, etc. I tried to research what the restrictions actually are in Italy and from what I read people are restricted to going to the grocery store, "gathering in public places" (does not specify crowd size) and are not to be closer than a meter to anyone, sick or not.
Those measures sound very different to what you are describing above...
I don’t think that is an apples-to-apples comparison. The situation in Italy is a completely different beast than what the US is trying to do (and probably from what most of the rest of Europe is doing, as well). Italy has taken steps far beyond social distancing. The entire country is in lockdown (quarantine), and I think the only country to do so. And my understanding of what that means is in line with what you mentioned. So, yeah, it's definitely a more extreme approach than anything I'm talking about. Time will tell what the right approach really is/should have been, but probably long after that ship has sailed.
Post by nothingleftbutfaith on Mar 12, 2020 11:05:43 GMT 1
Yeah, things are heating up here as well. My uni is closing for a week starting today, though we will be getting some online substitution as soon as the lecturers are able to deliver them.
Post by charlottemargita on Mar 12, 2020 15:21:05 GMT 1
Well things have changed here as well: controls on borders, they closed all airports, quaratine for people arriving from abroad, they closed all schools, everything is closed except grocery stores, drug stores and pharmacies, hotels and restaurants. And finally our company approved WFH for all employees, not just those who are parents.
Meanwhile the right wing press in the UK are somehow seeing the "benefits" of the virus culling the elderly
Well I've seen another article that talks about "treating basically only those who have the potential to survive" Basically passive genocide. And which judge, jury and executioner gets to decide this? Oh right, the medical staff. So as someone who has worked in the medical field for 29 years, they are not always correct. In fact the elderly are some of the strongest people I know. They've been through more than we ever will. Let's not lose our effing heads people.
We have food hoarding here, now. It's like nothing I've ever seen before. It feels like today is the day we've cracked.
It's crazy here. From what Francesca said this is like Milan 2 weeks ago in Seattle. BTW: March Madness just got cancelled. That's huge. I see my rheumatologist next week & am going to insist on test. The criteria for it is getting lowered as more kits become available. I've been feeling a little worse every day & if it was the chemo that wouldn't be the case. I don't quite have a fever but my temp has been going up a little every day. & I have been behaving responsibly. If nothing else, for peace of mind.