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Jan 14, 2020 15:14:42 GMT 1 charlottemargita said:

Jan 13, 2020 15:04:16 GMT 1 steve said:

Well I thought the first 2 episodes were pretty good but last night's was possibly the worst episode I've ever seen.
The Doctor has added climate change activist to her SJW portfolio now.
I'm okay with delivering messages but Doctor Who really doesn't seem to be the right platform for me.
She should stick to saving the earth & other planets/ space things from weird monsters & stuff.

Exactly my thoughts. I found previous season very weak and finally I really liked these two new episodes. It reminded me of "old" doctors.

I get the impression they're going for a David Tennant/fun tone - bit of spirit and a cheeky wink can overtone most evils.

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Doctor Who Jan 14, 2020 17:24:53 GMT 1 steve likes this

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Post by nothingleftbutfaith on Jan 14, 2020 17:24:53 GMT 1

Ooooh, there's a DW thread... and even better, you guys seem to share my views!

Don't have much to add as I've only watched the first episode so far, but that in itself is kind of telling isn't it? Thought the first episode was a step up from last series, but it felt a bit too much of a 'look we listened to your criticisms and are trying to fix it' to be really good (and of course some script issues are still there in my opinion eg. too much tell and not enough show). So it's disappointing to hear that the improvement doesn't seem to last past the first story.

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Doctor Who Jan 14, 2020 18:33:48 GMT 1 charlottemargita likes this

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Post by steve on Jan 14, 2020 18:33:48 GMT 1

You might find it okay but the second episode got absolutely shredded in the press for a reason I never even considered.
& that's what's wrong with both the show & the media.
They are both really trying (too hard) to be "woke" & as a result they clash stupendously.
Doctor Who should get rid of all the messaging it's delivering at the moment. The more it tries, the more the critics pick holes in it in the media & that's primarily because the Doctor currently really tries to jam that message down our throats like Annie Wilkes with the ice cream scoop on Ace Merrill in Castle Rock.
We get it okay? Get on with saving people from robots, statues, lizards, Martians etc.
& stop dicking about with the TARDIS too. It's starting to look like a soap opera night club in there.

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Doctor Who Jan 14, 2020 21:54:06 GMT 1 steve likes this

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Post by nothingleftbutfaith on Jan 14, 2020 21:54:06 GMT 1

Just finished Spyfall pt. 2... While in some ways it is still better than most of the episodes of last series, I can't say I truly enjoyed it either. I just struggle with Chibnall's writing a lot, it's too drawn out and... dull? functional? exposition-y? staged?

While I'm not against messaging in DW, I have to say I really dislike the anvilicious-ness Chibnall delivers it with. It, much like Chibnall's writing on a whole in my opinion, lacks subtlety and finesse.

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Jan 14, 2020 21:54:06 GMT 1 nothingleftbutfaith said:

Just finished Spyfall pt. 2... While in some ways it is still better than most of the episodes of last series, I can't say I truly enjoyed it either. I just struggle with Chibnall's writing a lot, it's too drawn out and... dull? functional? exposition-y? staged?

While I'm not against messaging in DW, I have to say I really dislike the anvilicious-ness Chibnall delivers it with. It, much like Chibnall's writing on a whole in my opinion, lacks subtlety and finesse.

Also, why is the Master still crazy? I thought that had been quite nicely tied up.

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steve Big Hand Songs Of A Lost World CRUMPET BOY Having trouble understanding Jane Posts: 56,753	Doctor Who Jan 27, 2020 14:51:59 GMT 1 charlottemargita likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by steve on Jan 27, 2020 14:51:59 GMT 1 Wow. 2 good episodes in a row at last. &....Captain Jack!
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steve Big Hand Songs Of A Lost World CRUMPET BOY Having trouble understanding Jane Posts: 56,753	Doctor Who Feb 3, 2020 15:02:46 GMT 1 charlottemargita likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by steve on Feb 3, 2020 15:02:46 GMT 1 Another message-trumpeting episode this week. sigh
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czuczu Entreat Posts: 5,249	Doctor Who Feb 3, 2020 18:49:23 GMT 1 via mobile steve, nothingleftbutfaith, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by czuczu on Feb 3, 2020 18:49:23 GMT 1 Having a break from 13 and going back in time for a greatest hits binge of 8 onwards Just got up to Derek Jacobi remembering he is the Master - amazing episode!
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Doctor Who Feb 3, 2020 22:44:45 GMT 1 steve likes this

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Post by nothingleftbutfaith on Feb 3, 2020 22:44:45 GMT 1

Still completely behind due to being really busy at the moment, so the time I've had to watch shows has gone to other shows. Finally got around to Orphan 55... and just what?!? Don't they do script editing anymore? (Or maybe Chibnall's editing is just bad). That episode was such a mess! The only thing it succeeded in was making me wish I was watching the episode Oxygen again instead...

Happy to hear that the next two episodes are better, even if it's just for those two.

steve Big Hand Songs Of A Lost World CRUMPET BOY Having trouble understanding Jane Posts: 56,753	Doctor Who Feb 10, 2020 14:53:31 GMT 1 charlottemargita likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by steve on Feb 10, 2020 14:53:31 GMT 1 Quite enjoyed last night's episode. Not judgy in the slightest & we got to know the companions a whole lot better after all this time
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Doctor Who Feb 12, 2020 14:58:52 GMT 1 steve likes this

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Feb 10, 2020 14:53:31 GMT 1 steve said:

Quite enjoyed last night's episode. Not judgy in the slightest & we got to know the companions a whole lot better after all this time

Agree, this one was good. Just fighting with the Gods was a bit.. too quick and easy?

Thinking like "that's it?".

Btw, detachable fingers in ears are my new nightmare

steve Big Hand Songs Of A Lost World CRUMPET BOY Having trouble understanding Jane Posts: 56,753	Doctor Who Feb 24, 2020 13:56:30 GMT 1 charlottemargita likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by steve on Feb 24, 2020 13:56:30 GMT 1 Now THAT was an episode of Doctor Who.
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charlottemargita Faith member Posts: 214	Doctor Who Feb 25, 2020 12:43:42 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charlottemargita on Feb 25, 2020 12:43:42 GMT 1 I haven't watched it yet, but I definitely will - today or tomorrow.

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Feb 25, 2020 12:43:42 GMT 1 charlottemargita said:

I haven't watched it yet, but I definitely will - today or tomorrow.

It's a proper Doctor Who.
No sledge hammer social awareness messages. Just full on Doctor & co vs the Cybermen

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charlottemargita Faith member Posts: 214	Doctor Who Mar 2, 2020 15:16:25 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charlottemargita on Mar 2, 2020 15:16:25 GMT 1 Just watched it yesterday, I was too busy to watch it earlier. And today I will watch the second part. I have no idea what this is going to be

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