It's almost embarrassing to tell them to dump Burn. We busted their eardrums begging them to play it and now we want them to dump it. See? This is why Robert would never let us do the set list. haha
I wouldn't especially drop burn, it's suits the mood of this tour and is a crowd pleaser, but I never understood how they never realised they kind of ruin the ending, thus loosing a really wild cheer, which i think is really a shame. How come noone from their sound crew never told them?! That's something I realli cannot understand.
Please explain what "ruin the ending" means?
Nor do I understand what you mean by "loosing a really wild cheer." Sorry --
Last Edit: Jan 28, 2023 20:26:53 GMT 1 by salleygarden
Hello salley, What I mean is, take most of the songs, shake dog shake, disintegration, pictures of you, lullaby, and so on, they have a sharp end, a grinding halt , crowd goes wild. Even on a forest, everybody cheers when Gallup hits his bass with his usual bassline crash at the end. Whereas for burn, the song goes softer and softer and vanishes slowly, and the crowd starts to cheer even before the song has actually ended, some other wait the real end, it's not that loud response reaction. Smith even has to sing his last phrase more quickly (he doesn't even leave the blank tempo correctly!) because the audience starts to shout before he even ends the last line of the song. So the audience is 'tricked' in its shouting, and it looses some of the cheers power. Which I think is a shame. It's like end of inbetween days or just like heaven he has done for the past tours. In the old days, the songs would end sharp, like on the album, and the crowd would really go wild! Nowadays, well, for some time now, Smith at the end of these songs continues on and on to play some accoustic gtr chords and the response of the audience is not as impressive as it was , as it should be, or rather as I believe it should be, because every one shouts at different time, the final cheers is not loud, it's diluted in time during these gtr chords. I feel there is real difference between most of the song ending straight and the crowd goes wild, which is a great feeling, and the few songs that vanish slowly and the audience shouts are split in time, thus quieter, and i believe it diminishes the power of the happiness response to this kind of song ending. And i think we / they really miss something. And I think it's really strange to me they didn't realize that / nobody didn't tell them, they should end these songs in a straighter way. I don't know if i'm understandable?
Last Edit: Jan 28, 2023 23:17:38 GMT 1 by Fabien G
Hello salley, What I mean is, take most of the songs, shake dog shake, disintegration, pictures of you, lullaby, and so on, they have a sharp end, a grinding halt , crowd goes wild. Even on a forest, everybody cheers when Gallup hits his bass with his usual bassline crash at the end. Whereas for burn, the song goes softer and softer and vanishes slowly, and the crowd starts to cheer even before the song has actually ended, some other wait the real end, it's not that loud response reaction. Smith even has to sing his last phrase more quickly (he doesn't even leave the blank tempo correctly!) because the audience starts to shout before he even ends the last line of the song. So the audience is 'tricked' in its shouting, and it looses some of the cheers power. Which I think is a shame. It's like end of inbetween days or just like heaven he has done for the past tours. In the old days, the songs would end sharp, like on the album, and the crowd would really go wild! Nowadays, well, for some time now, Smith at the end of these songs continues on and on to play some accoustic gtr chords and the response of the audience is not as impressive as it was , as it should be, or rather as I believe it should be, because every one shouts at different time, the final cheers is not loud, it's diluted in time during these gtr chords. I feel there is real difference between most of the song ending straight and the crowd goes wild, which is a great feeling, and the few songs that vanish slowly and the audience shouts are split in time, thus quieter, and i believe it diminishes the power of the happiness response to this kind of song ending. And i think we / they really miss something. And I think it's really strange to me they didn't realize that / nobody didn't tell them, they should end these songs in a straighter way. I don't know if i'm understandable?
My main problem with how they perform Burn live is that it's a tad too shouty (the bits at the end in the refrain when he goes "your name", "again", "the same" etc), losing the subtlety of the album version. The end, in particular, is sort of whispered in the album version. I guess whispering doesn't work very well live, but still.
I agree with your comment here overall.
I also don't particularly like the way Robert drags some songs with that extra guitar strumming when the song is already over.
Last Edit: Jan 29, 2023 0:00:59 GMT 1 by thebighand
Hello salley, What I mean is, take most of the songs, shake dog shake, disintegration, pictures of you, lullaby, and so on, they have a sharp end, a grinding halt , crowd goes wild. Even on a forest, everybody cheers when Gallup hits his bass with his usual bassline crash at the end. Whereas for burn, the song goes softer and softer and vanishes slowly, and the crowd starts to cheer even before the song has actually ended, some other wait the real end, it's not that loud response reaction. Smith even has to sing his last phrase more quickly (he doesn't even leave the blank tempo correctly!) because the audience starts to shout before he even ends the last line of the song. So the audience is 'tricked' in its shouting, and it looses some of the cheers power. Which I think is a shame. It's like end of inbetween days or just like heaven he has done for the past tours. In the old days, the songs would end sharp, like on the album, and the crowd would really go wild! Nowadays, well, for some time now, Smith at the end of these songs continues on and on to play some accoustic gtr chords and the response of the audience is not as impressive as it was , as it should be, or rather as I believe it should be, because every one shouts at different time, the final cheers is not loud, it's diluted in time during these gtr chords. I feel there is real difference between most of the song ending straight and the crowd goes wild, which is a great feeling, and the few songs that vanish slowly and the audience shouts are split in time, thus quieter, and i believe it diminishes the power of the happiness response to this kind of song ending. And i think we / they really miss something. And I think it's really strange to me they didn't realize that / nobody didn't tell them, they should end these songs in a straighter way. I don't know if i'm understandable?
Totally agree. As well as Burn, I also think that some of the 5 new songs have week endings