There are many, I think, who in 20 years if you asked would say, "Oh, yeah! That's the band with the guy with the big hair who did Friday I'm in Love!" or something similar. But can't really say I give much weight to their opinion on it...
That's interesting that you wouldn't give much weight to it. To remember just that after 20 years is still fairly remarkable.
Ha ha, really? I had a British friend I went to one of the 2016 shows with thinking he'd really be into it as a taste of his "homeland" and he basically said, "Oh, yeah, don't they sing Friday I'm in Love?"
My point being, if a hardcore Taylor Swift fan asked what I thought of when I heard her name, I'd probably say, "Shake it Off" not knowing anything else of hers. Since I'm clearly clueless about her in any meaningful way, why would someone who loves her value my recollection of her?
That's a fair point, but did Shake it Off stick with you because it was abysmal or because it resonated with you? I'd wager FIIL sticks with people for the second reason.
I'm not sure Friday resonates with anyone, the lyrics are kinda dumb. However it's just a wonderful pop melody that makes Friday so irresistible. It's a perfect pop song.
That's a fair point, but did Shake it Off stick with you because it was abysmal or because it resonated with you? I'd wager FIIL sticks with people for the second reason.
It stuck with me because I couldn't avoid it. It was everywhere whether I liked it (nope) or not.
That's a fair point, but did Shake it Off stick with you because it was abysmal or because it resonated with you? I'd wager FIIL sticks with people for the second reason.
It stuck with me because I couldn't avoid it. It was everywhere whether I liked it (nope) or not.
Ah. Got it. But I think the song itself sounds like it came off a conveyer belt IMHO. FIIL doesn't have that manufactured nuance. It's pop, but it's like those mis-shape candies you can get cheap but taste the same as the proper ones
Post by poeticnostalgia on Apr 1, 2019 22:45:34 GMT 1
It depends on if you are talking about their legacy from hardcore Cure fans, or just people in general (by this, I mean the regular population that knows of them but that doesn't know, say, every lyric to 'The Same Deep Water As You').
I think by the general public they will be known as a goth band that all the 'sad, depressed, bad kids' listened to in the 80s, that also had a few out-of-context poppy singles about Fridays and cats. Maybe they'll be remembered by these people for Disintegration as well. And for lots of hairspray.
But by hardcore fans (us, for example) they'll be remembered for so many things, that are also personal and not as universal. For example, I think a lot of us will remember them for times when we were in a dark place and they helped lift us out of that depression. Or maybe that's just me. They'll be remembered for persevering through a lot: quite a few changes of lineups, changes in the style of music they created, getting bad feedback from their fans when they released Bloodflowers (though it is clearly their best album). They'll have the legacy of being in, assisting in, or being a major part of our best memories.
// swimming the same deep water as you is hard //
// nothing left but faith //
// dropping through sky / through the glass of the roof / through the roof of your mouth / through the mouth of your eye / through the eye of the needle / it’s easier for me to get closer to heaven than to ever feel whole again //
I don't remember much bad feedback from fans on Bloodflowers but it is the ultimate slow burner Cure album, the one that grew better and better with every play. Maybe on first listen it got a lukewarm reaction. I know I wasn't initially blown away by it. It took quite a few listens before I loved it.
Nice call on Bloodflowers being their best album. It certainly is up there with their finest work and is definitely their greatest 21st century release.
Shame it's currently being ignored in setlists! I found it suprising at Hyde Park celebrating 40 years of The Cure's music that not a single Bloodflowers song was played.
Probably their last great tour in my opinion was the 2000 Dream tour where they played most of Bloodflowers every night. I miss those days of The Cure where they'd release a great album then do a tour based around those new songs. It never really happened with The Cure/4:13 Dream albums. Those songs soon got dropped from setlists.
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I think their legacy will be related to innovative song writing - there's something very special about it. The literary and classical influences make it pretty unique for me.
Wow how did I miss this awesome thread? I think everyone has it pegged. In a nut shell for me I think what makes The Cure stand out most are two things the, brilliant, complex, lyrics and the way the song structures do not follow your typical ababc etc pattern. For example Push. 2:24 seconds before Robert even sings and then there is a verse and a half. Who does that? Haha interesting, innovative, and people will one day discover them en masse and say "How did I miss them?" And we'll all sit back with a great big smile on our face.
Wow how did I miss this awesome thread? I think everyone has it pegged. In a nut shell for me I think what makes The Cure stand out most are two things the, brilliant, complex, lyrics and the way the song structures do not follow your typical ababc etc pattern. For example Push. 2:24 seconds before Robert even sings and then there is a verse and a half. Who does that? Haha interesting, innovative, and people will one day discover them en masse and say "How did I miss them?" And we'll all sit back with a great big smile on our face.
Hey, I never thought I'd say this, but Carrie Keagan may be one of the best 100 things to ever happen to TC. If it weren't for her, RS wouldn't have gone "viral" so that millions of new people now know who TC (or at least RS) are. For the last 30 years, nobody has paid any attention to my favorite band. Now when I wear my tee shirts out people are actually commenting because of that interview.
Legacy strengthened? Now that they've been "discovered" by the Internets, they use their 15 minutes to start pushing the envelope even further (like, into John Cage 4'33" territory).